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Hi Valentin,
Thanks for your remarks.
You’re right about the noise. The RAW files were exposed pretty accurately but in order to give the kissing couple more prominence I zoomed in quite a lot and furthermore because their faces were in shadow I raise the level quite a bit in order to see their features, even the way he cradles her face in his hands. Hope the noise isn’t too high a price to pay for the impromptu panorama.
Cheers
Mark
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A bit of human interest. They are rather sweet and completely oblivious to their surroundings. Wish I were young again. 
panoradiant.co.uk/thames/kiss.html
Sorry about the nadir, I messed up the actual shot and had to reconstruct it. Apart from that, what do you think?
Cheers,
Mark
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Re: what a nightmare trying to post a mesage on this forum
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If your spelling is as good as mine, you might do better to type your reply in MS Word (or equiv if you don't like Bill Gates) with its spell check, then cut and paste to these pages. The other advantage of this is to permit you to review a complete thread while replying, not just the last message.
Reaper, You say, 'also why can i not copy the text i have just written?' Well you can if you do it in Review, then go back to Edit to edit it.
Oh, and Reaper, keep your hair on, the guy who runs this site only has one pair of hands and possibly a life outside Panoguide. 
Mark
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Re: Is Flash the future?
Posted: 16 May 2008 at 16:49 GMT
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Hans,
Thanks, you tell me about inputs. What about outputs? For instance if I start with an equirectangular, can I make cube faces or re-convert to equirectangular with FPP like I do with Pano2.... apps, for instance.
Mrk
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Re: Is Flash the future?
Posted: 16 May 2008 at 16:21 GMT
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Gus,
What you say about needing to write code bothers me. I'm not great at HTML and no good at all at Java Script, but aren't there templates provided with FPP, or third parties, which can be easilly modified?
Doug,
Thanks for the detailed reply. I'm an amateur (still) but should a future client have specific requirements, be sure I'll comply. But you have given me a very good idea just how many viewers there are out there.
Everyone,
No one yet has anwered my questions of FPPs input/output requirements.
Edit Hans gave me a lot of these answers while I was writing this. Thanks Hans
Thanks all,
Mark
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Re: Is Flash the future?
Posted: 16 May 2008 at 16:07 GMT
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Fiero, you say, Yes, I agree with you, but it's difficult to change a name when a lot of users identify the name already (more than 1.6 millions of users, 120000 new users every month). Maybe DVR (or similar) is the best option that could be identified by old and new users but you might remember I contacted you by e-mail about this very early on, and later in this forum. Non-the-less, it is your DevalVR which brings old and tired QTVR to life, so I hope you can find a way around the name for your splendid application.
Mitsubish had to do so for its Pajero car in Spain and Latin America, I'm told.
Wish you well,
Mark
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Is Flash the future?
Posted: 16 May 2008 at 13:29 GMT
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Flash panoramas seem to be of far greater quality than they were a year or so ago and so I am thinking of using it exclusively in future and abandoning Quick Time/DevalVR completely. Although not universal, Flash seems to be the most common plug-in, for Windows at least, and even if a visitor doesn’t have it the name Macromedia or Adobe inspires confidence in its safety (unlike DevalVR which, tiny and excellent as it is, has no Windows signature but a name that sounds a bit like the Devil to the uninitiated - a virus perhaps. – Fiero doesn’t agree with me.)
So is Flash to be recommended and is it and corresponding HTMLs generated with Pano2VR good enough. (Pano2VR is the only application I have for Flash panoramas – easy to use but a bit limited).
I’ve got Pano2QTVR Pro, without Flash, which seems a much more flexible programme, at least when using it for QTVR/DevalVR with its excellent HTML templates, so should I spend another £27 pounds on a Flash upgrade?
Most pleasing for me are panoramas displayed with Flash Panorama Player, but I have no idea if FPP is a substitute for pano2QTVR or Pano2VR. So far as I know, there isn’t a trial version of FPP, so to try it I’ll need to layout £36.
If you guys recommend it, I don’t mind that, but what does it need and what does it provide. Can I simply load equirectangulars into it and if so JPEG, TIFF or what-have-you? Can I load .mov files? Can I load a set of cube faces? What else?
As well as Flash panoramas, what else can FPP provide? Cube faces, conversion back from cube faces to equirectangulars, QTVR etc.
Important for me, can I superimpose still text on a rotating panorama, include MP3 and MIDI sound? Hot spots? What else?
For simplicity, what I don’t want to do is offer visitors a choice of panorama viewers, so if it’s to be Flash, it has to take me well into the future.
Or is there something better out there I just haven't thought of?
Look forward to your recommendations,
Mark
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Posted: 15 May 2008 at 15:10 GMT
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Hi Dylan,
You say ...maybe next time stick your finger on the sun, and then one without. I use my car alarm fob on a string attached to my key chain. You will be amazed at the quality difference for the extra 3 seconds
So here are my excuses – I’ve always plenty.
I’m lazy, my 40 year old fisheye – which I love – suffers badly from flare and comets from outer space blown towards it by the solar wind – in my rush to get the shots I didn't set-up the camera properly, and the unposed subjects wouldn’t stay still, especially Mr. Hardhat, of whom I took several shots, hoping one of them would be right. See what I mean:
Yes, I will try reducing the quality during auto-rotate but I would rather launch the HTML files generated by Pano2VR in order to get the control buttons and full screen display. I’ve just heard that that Adobe is about to release a new player version, which might overcome some of the old objections to Flash.
Thanks again, Dylan,
Mark
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Mike,
You are right about the basic Flash player. I'm wondering about FPP. Any ideas? Anyone! Is there a trial version?
Mark
Just come across this, which answers my question about FPP trial version - there isn't one, it seems.
www.panoguide.com/forums/qna/4837/
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Posted: 13 May 2008 at 22:13 GMT
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Putting the World to rights over a pint.
Took a stroll down to the River* yesterday.
panoradiant.co.uk/thames/pauls-hat.html
This is my first Flash panorama made with Autopano Pro and Pano2VR
Mark
* By the River, Londoners mean the Thames. You can just about make out the Millennium Bridge which crosses it to the South Bank near the Tate Modern Galleries and the Globe Theatre.
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Posted: 11 May 2008 at 23:48 GMT
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www.cs.ubc.ca/~mbrown/autostitch/autostitch.html
You might get a bit more information from the above site. Matthew Brown’s Autostitch was fantastic in its day. One of the first automatic stitcher/blenders and almost completely intuitive. Mind you its strength, non-interventional automatics, is also its weakness. When anything goes wrong there isn't much you can do about it.
I think your problem is insufficient overlap between images. If Autostitch can't find common points, it simply stops processing and leaves you an incomplete panorama. Next time you go out on a shoot, try 10 or more around instead of 9.
Or you could try Autostitch's successor, Autopano. You can get a tial version from www.autopano.net/
Mark
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Posted: 10 May 2008 at 23:32 GMT
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Morton,
Those who know me from these pages will agree I'm not one of your experts, therefore I won't comment on any but Point 2. Why a red piece of paper in particular? Are you into bull fighting? What's wrong with holding your free hand up in front of the lens? If you wear a wristwatch you will have a record of the time too.
Having said I'm no expert and will comment on a single point only, re-reading your posting another thing bothers me. Clearly you take a lot of trouble over shooting your panoramas, why not take a little more and shoot RAW which will make correction a lot more accurate than fiddling about with JPEGs in PS? If you shoot, as I suspect, a mix of different artificial lights and daylight you need not worry about white balance which can be accurately adjusted in retrospect in a RAW editor like Adobe Camera RAW.
Hope you get loads of business,
Mark
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Posted: 9 May 2008 at 22:17 GMT
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Gus,
www.panoguide.com/forums/qna/4654/
With this thread I told of my woes trying to fuse artificial brackets with Enfuse. Eventually, with all of your help, I got it to working.
Later I realized I could skip Enfuse and simply drop all the artificial brackets into Autopano Pro and let it do the work. Same sort of thing you’ve been doing with PTGui, I think. Mind you, you can go away and cook the Sunday joint while Autopano stitches, renders and blends. Hopefully PTGui is faster.
Although artificial bracketing a single set of RAW files into two +/- 1EV sets (in my case) certainly can increase dynamic range within limits, it is as well to keep these limits in mind. Completely blown windows or blacker-than-black shadows can’t be corrected with the exposure slider in Adobe Camera Raw, but of course could have been compensated with true bracketing.
But Gus, you speak of increasing tonal range and I of dynamic range. Now I have a question: What’s the difference?
Mark
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Re: I'm having trouble with DevalVR
Posted: 6 May 2008 at 21:51 GMT
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For days now I have been trying to overcome the problem displaying VRs with DevalVR in HTMLs generated by Pano2QTVR. The problem is that the display sometimes stalls, no matter whether browser IE, Opera or Saffari is used. To reiterate, viewing with QTVR or Flash presents no problem.
Not knowing what elso to do, I purchased PC Tools Register Mechanics, and did it help? Not at all!
Surely there must be someone out there with a solution.
Very glum, 
Mark
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Re: I'm having trouble with DevalVR
Posted: 3 May 2008 at 10:55 GMT
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Yes Smooth, what you say makes sense and what I said didn't because the problem occurs just as frequently off-line from HD as on-line. Same problem with all three browsers installed; IE, Opera, Saffari.
I will look into the things you mention after my guests go home, in the meantime would you and anyone else test this by calling up the panorama of the Old Barge Inn over and over again to see if it stalls your browsers like it does mine:
panoradiant.co.uk/lee-page/hertford-lee.htm
Mark
PS I have the same problem viewing other peoples stuff with DevalVR. No problems with QTVR or various Flash and Java viewers.
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