moto
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Colorcode-3D Anaglyph Stereoscopic Gigapixel Sperical HDR Panoramic Panoramas 3D Stereo 360 180 VR
Posted: 3 May 2008 at 12:38 GMT
updated: 3 May 2008 at 12:40 GMT
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Color-3D Stereoscopic Gigapixel Sperical HDR Panoramic Panoramas 3D Stereo Anaglyph 360 180 VR
Sorry for the lame thread title. It's done to help searches. I like this forum, and am seriously considering becoming a very active member here.
My Background:
My name is John Matulis. I'm 32, have the mind of a 60yr old, act and play like a 12yr old, and thankfully look like an 18yr old. I have been in love with photography my entire life. Got my first cam in 3rd grade. It was a department store freebe disney promotional 35mm POS, but I loved it. My parents knew how much I was into it, and got me a Polorid Instant camera for my 11th birthday. I actually captured some amazing stuff with that thing. A couple beautiful scenery photots, one of a waterfall in a trout stream, and one of a beach (both in michigan). Took thousands of pics with it.
One night, very late, after midnight, the older brother of my next door neighbor started ringing our doorbell, and frantically banging our door. My mom answered it, he asked for me. He knew I had that polorid. He told me to get it fast, and come over. I did. He was a highschool dropout, and spent all his time working on his car in his garage, and playing basketball in his driveway. This night, he was shooting hoops, and did something which may be the only time ever in the history. It was a perfectly still night, absolutely no wind. He took a shot, and it did a "toilet bowl". The strange thing was, it didn't go in, or fall out. Instead, the ball actually balanced perfectly on the front of the rim! I made it there in time to see it for myself. I took a couple pics. Only one came out where you could see anything, but I think I put a finger infront of part of the flash, so it didn't come out good. Anyway, it was good enough to capture the moment in time, that may have never happened before, and might never happen again.
I was already hooked on photography, but that did indeed make my passion that much stronger. The ability to capture moments in time visually was just amazing to me.
As time went on, and my knowledge of photography grew, so did my already crazy passion for it. The two constantly fed each other. As my passion grew, so did my motivation to learn everything I could about the subject, which in turn allowed me to capture moments in time more accurately, which in turn drove up my passion more, repeat, repeat.
Fast forward to current day. I have developed a nice career in radio frequency engineering, which along with my being single and not owning a house, allows me to afford whatever I need to fullfill my passion.
Recent breakthroughs in digital photography, image processing, equipment and techniques has led to what I perceive to be the holy grail of photography. That is nothing less than the ability to capture a moment in time from a visual sense, near perfection. Perfection being equal or better than what could be viewed by my own eyes.
I have now done this.
I have been very interested in VR Pano Photography for years now, and have acquired pretty much all of the best equipment available. I choose not to make a career out of photography for a number of reasons, mostly because I do not wish to spoil my love for the hobby. I did this once with my favorite sport (paintball), and refuse to do it with my favorite hobby (photography).
Anyway, finally, to the main point of this thread. Rather than rattling off a dozen words to describe the type of photography I am into now (refer to thread title if you wish), instead I will just call it "True VR Photography".
You guys can surf through the rest of this site for much of the technical info on the various equipments and techniques that make this amazing type of photography possible. The one new thing I wish to add here is something that hasn't been talked about much here. Colorcode-3D.
www.colorcode3d.com
The technology itself has been around for a few years now, but up till now, has not been fully utilized. The concept is fairly simple, and age old. Use software to apply a color mask to a set of stereo images, so you can use a pair of colored glasses to view the image in 3D.
In the past, this was a very simple process. Just modify the color levels for blue and yellow in the images, and view with those old cardboard glasses. The problem was, the resulting 3D image didn't look very good. Nothing like the real thing. It would give you headache if you looked at it too long, the colors were off, and the 3D effect couldn't really be seen well unless the pic was reduced to grayscale.
Well, that has now changed. The old images were called Anaglyphs. The new ones are simply called Colorcode-3D images (I know, not very imaginative). Anyway, this company has perfected a technique that allows full color stereo images to be viewed in true 3D using a similar technique of masking color levels. The actual image processing technique is patented, and has not been made public. So unfortunately, if you want to use this technology, you'll have to buy their encoding software. It only runs on macs. You also have to buy special glasses from them.
The amazing thing about this technology is the fact that it is the final link in the chain. We already know how to create perfectly stitched gigapixel HDR spherical panoramic photos, which results in moments captured in time nearly perfectly, just as how you saw it when standing there next to your camera. The only problem is that when viewing the images, you still didn't get the same 3D effect you get with your eyes. Well that has now changed.
I will keep this thread active for some time, updating it with many tips, equipment info, techniques, web links, recommendations, samples of my some of my work, experimental stuff, and various other bits of info on this amazing subject. In the time being, go ahead and check out colorcode. I really do see there being a quantum leap in photography in the near future. I would like to do away with all the techno mumbo jumbo, and just call it "TRUE VR".
To the regulars on this forum, please identify and introduce yourselves here when you have a chance. I think you've just gained a new friend here, whether you like it or not 
-moto
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John Houghton
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Re: Colorcode-3D Anaglyph Stereoscopic Gigapixel Sperical HDR Panoramic Panoramas 3D Stereo 360 180 VR
Posted: 3 May 2008 at 18:46 GMT
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Moto, Your enthusiasm for Colorcode-3D is conveyed very well and it does sound very interesting. In a recent posting, you said that it was "awesome" but also said you hadn't actually tried it yourself. I assume that you must have seen the results of the process to form this very favorable opinion. Are the claims fully justified - i.e. full stereoscopic effect, natural colour, and no distracting process artifacts?
John
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moto
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Re: Colorcode-3D Anaglyph Stereoscopic Gigapixel Sperical HDR Panoramic Panoramas 3D Stereo 360 180
Posted: 3 May 2008 at 19:40 GMT
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i just received a pair of their 'pro' glasses in the mail. i have been using the mac encoding software to process some test (non pano) images ive taken in various conditions. i have a good bit of practice with the "cross eye" jps thing. so i know how to vary stereo separation and toe in correctly. the results using this colorcode thing is nothing short of miraculous. the only thing that ive seen that can top this is my MyVu stereo head positioning goggles, using a jps viewer to send seperate stereo images to each lcd display. but i cant expect everyone wishing to view my work to go out and buy a pair of $500USD lcd goggles. its bad enough to make them have to buy anything. but they can pick up a cheap pair of cardboard colorcode glasses very cheap (about $20USD after shipping).
the reason im so excited about the colorcode thing, is it finally allows representation of true 3d, in full color, without the need of expensive goggles, or straining your eyes to go crosseye'd, which many people cant seem to do.
its not perfect, but its really good. 1,000x better than a full color blue/red anaglyph.
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Ken Warner
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Re: Colorcode-3D Anaglyph Stereoscopic Gigapixel Sperical HDR Panoramic Panoramas 3D Stereo 360 180
Posted: 3 May 2008 at 19:50 GMT
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I don't get it. It an anaglyph... So what's the big deal.
They aren't even good anaglyphs...
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John Houghton
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Re: Colorcode-3D Anaglyph Stereoscopic Gigapixel Sperical HDR Panoramic Panoramas 3D Stereo 360 180
Posted: 3 May 2008 at 19:50 GMT
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moto said: its not perfect, but its really good.
That's encouraging, but in what ways does it fall short of perfection?
John
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moto
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Re: Colorcode-3D Anaglyph Stereoscopic Gigapixel Sperical HDR Panoramic Panoramas 3D Stereo 360 180
Posted: 3 May 2008 at 19:58 GMT
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good anaglyphs can only be done using grayscale source images (or close to it), resulting in a very strange colored stereo anaglyph (ie 1950s 3D movies).
i dont know if there will be much difference between the pro and cardboard glasses for colorcode. i just picked up 3 pairs of the plastic ones.
like i said, i do not know exactly how they do it. its a patented process, so you cant just go out and get a ps plugin to process the image sets for colorcode.
but however they manage it, they break up the colors in a way that allows full natural color anaglyphs.
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moto
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Re: Colorcode-3D Anaglyph Stereoscopic Gigapixel Sperical HDR Panoramic Panoramas 3D Stereo 360 180
Posted: 3 May 2008 at 20:05 GMT
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if you could somehow block out everything else but the the actual colorcode anaglyph, i think it might be near perfect. perhaps black electrical tape on the lenses? i'll give that a shot.
anyway, because your monitor only takes up maybe 10% of your field of view, you still get a lot of area outside the colorcode image on your computer (or print) that is not coded. this results in a similarly weird color effect on everything else around, which kinda screws up the effect, because you brain wants to focus on the weird stuff.
also, if your eyes are not perfectly aligned with the coded image, you will again get some weird effects, and that sorta nauseating feeling.
so no, not perfect, but tons better than the red/blue glasses of the past. the mere fact that it can do full natural color in 3d is a major accomplishment.
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michael przewrocki
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Re: Colorcode-3D Anaglyph Stereoscopic Gigapixel Sperical HDR Panoramic Panoramas 3D Stereo 360 180
Posted: 5 May 2008 at 4:45 GMT
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i also recieved a poor dvd from them and the glasses. their website is still a secret. hardly to understand. i have been waiting for years until they offered a 2d-3d-conversion. its a simple software available for free. 2. if i adjust my screen for the glasses, then afterwards my 2d-images(standard) or screen will be bluish. they said i have an outdated crt.
3.there are already improved anaglyph-solutions. one is made by a dentist imre nagy. go to photo-3d or stereodatamaker-forum(yahoo-groups) to contact him. no need for special glasses. just standard anaglyph-technology improved.
the future of 3d-stereo are autostereocopic displays anyhow.
michael przewrocki
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