Tom Vogel
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Location: Cambridge, Ontario, Canada
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iSpace tours - panos running like a dream on iPad/iPhone/iPod
Posted: 15 Mar 2011 at 3:37 GMT
updated: 15 Mar 2011 at 3:40 GMT
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Hi all - been a while since I've been back. Nice new site layout! Just wanted to show off my set of panos designed for Apple mobile devices: simply 'Tap & Tour' is my mantra. No apps - complications - just panos in the palm of your hand:
click the link below within your iPad/iPhone/iPod touch (be sure to launch the tours with your device in the 'Book-Reader' position and then tap the Full Screen icon for the show to really begin):
www.ispace-tours.com/france-ipad/
Enjoy the show!
I look forward to any feedback from this group of admired fellow panographers.
Kind regards - Tom
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Juergen Schrader
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Re: iSpace tours - panos running like a dream on iPad/iPhone/iPod
Posted: 15 Mar 2011 at 7:08 GMT
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Well, while the panoramas seem to look pretty good I can tell you that navigating these on my iPhone is a pain.
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Hans Nyberg
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Re: iSpace tours - panos running like a dream on iPad/iPhone/iPod
Posted: 15 Mar 2011 at 7:24 GMT
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You need to learn some CSS to get this working.
Hans
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Smooth
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Re: iSpace tours - panos running like a dream on iPad/iPhone/iPod
Posted: 15 Mar 2011 at 8:27 GMT
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Appears to be PTGUI Flash/html5 output.
Regards, Smooth 
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badders
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Location: East Kilbride, United Kingdom
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Re: iSpace tours - panos running like a dream on iPad/iPhone/iPod
Posted: 15 Mar 2011 at 8:46 GMT
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Works on my MacBook Pro but not on my iPhone 4 or iPAD 1.
Badders
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John Houghton
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Re: iSpace tours - panos running like a dream on iPad/iPhone/iPod
Posted: 15 Mar 2011 at 11:45 GMT
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Works ok on my iPOD Touch
John
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Henri Smeets
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Location: Amsterdam, Netherlands
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Haha, what kind of dream?
Posted: 15 Mar 2011 at 13:37 GMT
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Hi Tom,
It may need a bit of fine-tuning I guess. I've tested it on my iPhone 3GS and iPad 1, both running the latest iOS 4.3.
In portrait orientation the basic page looks fine on the iPad, on the iPhone the panorama is way too small, the full-screen button hard to see or even press.
When rotating either device to landscape the panorama just disappears!
In full screen it seems to be a little hit-and-miss as well, sometimes it looks fine and then there are grey borders to the right and below!?!
Switching back to non-fullscreen sometimes messes up the page layout.
Before you announce something's running like a dream you'd better test it thoroughly.
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Juergen Schrader
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Re: Haha, what kind of dream?
Posted: 15 Mar 2011 at 14:15 GMT
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Exactly.
Probably what he wanted to say is that he was dreaming they were running 
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Clay
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Location: Port Colborne, Ontario, Canada
Registered: 23 Aug 2004
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Re: iSpace tours - panos running like a dream on iPad/iPhone/iPod
Posted: 15 Mar 2011 at 23:43 GMT
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Sorry Tom, slow and clunky on my iPod. What did you use to produce these?
Clay
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Tom Vogel
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Location: Cambridge, Ontario, Canada
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Re: iSpace tours - panos running like a dream on iPad/iPhone/iPod
Posted: 16 Mar 2011 at 3:50 GMT
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Hi again everyone. Thanks for your helpful feedback and good humoured comments (gotta love that line "he was dreaming they were running" ... very quick Juergen!
Clay: Smooth was right - I use PTGui's web tool. It's a clunky & imperfect tool at the moment. I have to use the first edition of 9.0 because the PTViewer in 9.03 adds all sorts of bells & whistles but degrades the image quality considerably. Who needs Gyroscopic navigation when the image you navigate is a blur. Has anyone else found this to be the case?
I am able to run my tours on all Apple mobile products however and that is a plus (clunky or otherwise). I've been reading post from all sorts of sources that express frustration in even getting a pano on mobile devices at all.
Hans: you suggested CSS. I agree with you - I have little knowledge of the appropriate scripts. Do you know of any source that can help me in getting these tours up and running in a better way? I greatly admire you work and would be deeply grateful for any advice you might have in this direction.
Badders: the tours will work if you place your devices in the portrait position when you first launch them. Though it looks as if they can get funky real quick if you rotate to landscape during the tour.
Henri - thanks so much for the screen shots. They are an enormous help to me. Scary - but eye-opening and useful.
John: I onlyu have an iPod Touch myself and have been testing these without much problem as well. My clients have iPads and are actually very pleased with the results. That's possibly because they have nothing else to compare them to at the moment.
Gentlemen: I value all your comments and would welcome any advice you can give me to improve this feature. CSS will most likely be the answer. If any of you have a spare script hanging about and would like to share - we would all benefit from the generosity.
Thanks again everyone!
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Clay
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Re: iSpace tours - panos running like a dream on iPad/iPhone/iPod
Posted: 16 Mar 2011 at 7:46 GMT
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Hi Tom,
You might want to check out this solution for IOS devices.
vrhabitat.com/
Example: (not without problems of its own)
www.claytonm.com/iVR/TomsBurnedDownCafe/
But generally cleaner, faster with content sized for the iPod or iPad automatically.
I'm sure there are other solutions, I'd be interested in knowing them too.
Clay
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Chuck Spaulding
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Location: Agoura Hils,, United States
Registered: 6 Jul 2010
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Re: iSpace tours - panos running like a dream on iPad/iPhone/iPod
Posted: 29 Mar 2011 at 5:06 GMT
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Hi Clay, how do you use the VRHabitiat software.
I'm currently using Pano2VR. how do you incorporate this into your workflow so the same panos play on an iPad?
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Clay
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Location: Port Colborne, Ontario, Canada
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Re: iSpace tours - panos running like a dream on iPad/iPhone/iPod
Posted: 30 Mar 2011 at 2:19 GMT
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Hi Chuck,
Won't Pano2VR do it for you now?
VR5 from VRhabitat doesn't play the same pano, it plays a different 480 cube face pano on the iphone/ipod and a 1024 cube face pano on the iPad. It detects what iDevice you have and gives you the appropriate size, and you can also set it up to play alternate Flash content on other devices.
It's a lot of work and there are some display bugs, but I like the look of it, at least until I can find something better.
Regards,
Clay
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Jarredja
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Re: iSpace tours - panos running like a dream on iPad/iPhone/iPod
Posted: 30 Mar 2011 at 3:00 GMT
updated: 30 Mar 2011 at 3:01 GMT
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Clay,
Don't mean to hi-jack the thread here but you mentioned looking for another solution.
Have you taken a test drive of Krpano? For simple integration, I don't think it can be beat. If you like customizing, you can do that too. I have not used Pano2VR so I really can't compare it but I am quite happy with the functionality of both the Flash player and the idevice player and it all can be run on one XML file if you want it that way.
Jarred
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Hans Nyberg
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Re: iSpace tours - panos running like a dream on iPad/iPhone/iPod
Posted: 30 Mar 2011 at 7:13 GMT
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Plus KRpano also works fine on Android.
Hans
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