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rai rai

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Location: Spain
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tourweaver vs 3DVista Show.
Posted: 9 Dec 2010 at 15:24 GMT
Could you please give your/s opinions about these programs ??
3D Vista show is cheaper and may be is a good option.

Regards.
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Smooth

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Location: Mount Panorama, Australia
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Re: Tourweaver vs 3DVista Show.
Posted: 9 Dec 2010 at 15:34 GMT
www.panoguide.com/forums/qna/8694/

Regards, Smooth cool
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Doug Aurand

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Location: Albuquerque, NM, United States
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Re: tourweaver vs 3DVista Show.
Posted: 9 Dec 2010 at 15:35 GMT
updated: 9 Dec 2010 at 15:39 GMT
rai rai
I looked at 3DVista Show when I was comparing Tour Authoring software and, while less expensive, it didn't seem to have the potential of Tourweaver 5.0

I've been able to to produce tours like this

vabq.com/MCMBeaumont/TourWeaver_MCMBeaumont.html

with the 5.0 Standard Version

I plan to upgrade to the 6.0 Standard because it will support 2 floorplans in one tour (5.0 Standard won't) which will take care of almost any home I would do a floorplan navigated tour for in Albuquerque.

I don't recall the specifics of what I didn't like about 3DVista Show after downloading and playing with it, so I can't help with a side by side comparison

Good luck
Doug Aurand
Albuquerque, NM
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Morten Boe

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Location: Perth, Australia
Registered: 8 Aug 2005
Re: tourweaver vs 3DVista Show.
Posted: 9 Dec 2010 at 16:22 GMT
updated: 9 Dec 2010 at 16:25 GMT
G'day rai rai?

I have used 3DVista for several years now. The support for this product has all but stopped. It is very unfortunate as it is still the best GUI I have used for creating Flash tours.

I have recenly tried to make the move to FPP and can tell you the learning curve is massive compared to using 3DVista's Show 3. There are some compromises (with 3DVista) including that the viewer is not quite as smooth and it is not as customisable as say FPP with Flashificator. However, if you want a solid and easy to use product giving consistent and decent results it is still worth a look.

Use the trial periods for some of these products and see for yourself.

Here are a couple of recent jobs which I used Show 3 to create;

www.trueview.com.au/trinity/

www.trueview.com.au/balihouse/

It is very easy to integrate floor plans, maps and slideshows with the panoramas which has been a very big selling point for my tours.

My web site (getting old) uses 3DVista exclusively if you would like to see more samples.

Regards,

Morten

www.trueview.com.au

P.S. Doug your panos are spinninag at 100mph on IE8, Chrome, Firefox and Safari (all on PC)
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Doug Aurand

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Re: tourweaver vs 3DVista Show.
Posted: 9 Dec 2010 at 16:35 GMT
Morton
Thanx for reminding me about the spin speed.

I need to set them slower and reload the tour

Doug Aurand
Albuquerque, NM
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Doug Aurand

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Re: tourweaver vs 3DVista Show.
Posted: 14 Dec 2010 at 23:52 GMT
Morton
See if the scenes spins slower, I can't tell viewing it locally

vabq.com/MCMBeaumont/TourWeaver_MCMBeaumont.html

Thanx
Doug Aurand
Albuquerque, NM
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Morten Boe

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Location: Perth, Australia
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Re: tourweaver vs 3DVista Show.
Posted: 15 Dec 2010 at 1:59 GMT
G'day Doug,

When the Tour loads the 'Lobby' (and if left in 'auto-play' mode - all others) spin very fast. On selecting from the floor plan they all slow to a nice speed. As soon as I press the "Play all" button things go very fast again.

Nice panos by the way. Could you use the nice 'Full Screen' icons in the standard view? Those 'next' 'prev' icons spoil it a little. I have the same issue with 3DVista - lack of nice icons.

Having used FPP more lately, I am becoming far more critical of design. Always learning I guess!

Regards,

Morten
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Doug Aurand

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Re: tourweaver vs 3DVista Show.
Posted: 15 Dec 2010 at 3:36 GMT
Morton
Thanx for figuring the difference between the manual and play all spin speed.

I'll ask Easypano or their Forum

Thanx for the compliment, the images came out pretty nice. Helped that it was nice hotel and the staff & managemtn were excited about the tour

I'll see if I can come up with a Full Screen Button or something

Thanx again
Doug Aurand
Albuquerque, NM
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lybarrondo

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Location: New England, United States
Registered: 12 Feb 2009
Re: tourweaver vs 3DVista Show.
Posted: 15 Dec 2010 at 4:04 GMT
I've got Tourweaver 5, but I gave up on using it because of a fatal flaw with very large tours. Unless they have changed things, it zips up all the resource files and with a large tour the client machine will slow to a crawl at about 10-15% of the download. Regardless of connection speed, it takes time to uncompress that zip file. People think it is stalled and click away for good, never to return. That was a fatal flaw that killed the program for me. It is fine for small tours, so perhaps it will work for you.

I've been investing my time into learning krpano and am beginning to finally understand it and enjoying its capabilities. It is an impressive program. I am working on a 92 node tour with tons of pop-ups and it runs clean and fast on Chrome, IE, Safari, iPad, iPhone and Android. It is a big undertaking, but it is something that Tourweaver would have choked on.

Go with krpano if you want to grow into something of high quality. Tourweaver is a canned and closed solution you will soon outgrow.
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Thomas Krueger

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Registered: 3 Mar 2006
Re: tourweaver vs 3DVista Show.
Posted: 15 Dec 2010 at 6:31 GMT
Panotour and Panotour Pro are another option from kolor.com using the krpano viewer. Still in beta with a release candidate.
www.autopano.net/wiki-en/Lastest_Beta#Panotour_1.5_RC
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rai rai

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Location: Spain
Registered: 19 Nov 2010
Re: tourweaver vs 3DVista Show.
Posted: 15 Dec 2010 at 9:52 GMT
hmmmm... there are a lots of points of view but your answer is very clear. It is very difficult to kwnow which is the best option for everyone. too many options hahahh.
thank you very much for your reply.
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Doug Aurand

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Re: tourweaver vs 3DVista Show.
Posted: 15 Dec 2010 at 14:53 GMT
updated: 15 Dec 2010 at 14:54 GMT

lybarrondo said:

I've got Tourweaver 5, but I gave up on using it because of a fatal flaw with very large tours. Unless they have changed things, it zips up all the resource files and with a large tour the client machine will slow to a crawl at about 10-15% of the download. Regardless of connection speed, it takes time to uncompress that zip file. People think it is stalled and click away for good, never to return. That was a fatal flaw that killed the program for me. It is fine for small tours, so perhaps it will work for you.

I've been investing my time into learning krpano and am beginning to finally understand it and enjoying its capabilities. It is an impressive program. I am working on a 92 node tour with tons of pop-ups and it runs clean and fast on Chrome, IE, Safari, iPad, iPhone and Android. It is a big undertaking, but it is something that Tourweaver would have choked on.

Go with krpano if you want to grow into something of high quality. Tourweaver is a canned and closed solution you will soon outgrow.


What would you do a 92 scene tour of?

The hotel in the sample was only 14 scenes and one still and will be adding 4 more in a month.

Doug Aurand
Albuquerque, NM
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lybarrondo

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Location: New England, United States
Registered: 12 Feb 2009
Re: tourweaver vs 3DVista Show.
Posted: 16 Dec 2010 at 2:54 GMT
I'm working on a tour of a very big museum. It has to run on Chrome, IE, Firefox, Safari, Android, iPad & iPhone. The imagery has to go from mobile up to a 10x5K streamed resolution. I didn't have many options to choose from regarding player.

I'm new to krpano, so this is not the project I would have wanted to learn it on. I definitely have that frying pan feeling at the moment, but I'm slowly figuring it out. Digging through the krpano forum is a big help. I'd have to say that community support is a big factor in choosing a player to work with. Klaus and others on that site are very helpful. I'm impressed with the community, though somewhat intimidated by the relative skills. I do recommend struggling to figure something out. It tends to stick that way and the fun of solving the puzzle is there. A GUI can be constraining and tedious. I like the creativity possible with coding like FPP, panosalado or krpano. If you have the time and patience, you are better off being in the code than clicking buttons.
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Re: tourweaver vs 3DVista Show.
Posted: 16 Dec 2010 at 3:45 GMT
updated: 14 Mar 2011 at 16:13 GMT

lybarrondo said:

you are better off being in the code than clicking buttons.


Ideally, people should master both, and thereby be able to benefit from the best of both worlds.

Trausti
lybarrondo

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Location: New England, United States
Registered: 12 Feb 2009
Re: tourweaver vs 3DVista Show.
Posted: 16 Dec 2010 at 4:12 GMT
that's true. I consider myself a hack and learn best by dissecting other's code (that works). A gui (like yours) produces clean and functional code that I can learn from.
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