Skridlov
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comparison of Flash authoring software please
Posted: 3 May 2010 at 15:18 GMT
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I am currently using Pano2VR - in a fairly simple way. It seems to suffer from memory leaks when inputting large files. I also find that the hotspot facilities are a bit crude - although I admit this is the first time I've used them. For example I found no easy way of simply deleting an unwanted point hotspot.
I recently read an interesting thread here which included a discussion of the various delivery modes - flash v java for example - where other flash authoring applications were mentioned. Could anyone summarise - or point me at a summary - of the considerations involved in this choice. Flashificator seemed to be a contender; but that's perhaps because the author was a contributor to the discussion.
Roy
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mediavets
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Re: comparison of Flash authoring software please
Posted: 3 May 2010 at 16:06 GMT
updated: 3 May 2010 at 16:16 GMT
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Roy,
To generate Flash format panos, and create virtual tours, from the pano images created by the stitching programs the main alteratives are:
Pano2VR:
www.gardengnomesoftware.com/pano2vr.php
Flashificator and Flash Panorama Player:
www.flashificator.com/
www.flashpanoramas.com/player/
Autopano Tour (currently only available as a bundle with Autopano Giga):
www.autopano.net/en/photo-stitching-solutions/aut...
Tourweaver:
www.easypano.com/virtual-tour-software.html
I started out using Pano2VR because I found it the easiest to use to convert single panos to Flash format for on-line display. However, I never got to grips with the Skin Editor for creating virtual tours.
Now, because I use Autopano Giga for stiching, I mainly use the evolving Autopano Tour (APT) - a GUI front-end/XML generator for the krpano Fash Panorama Viewer. It is very easy to use to create basic tours.
You need an unlimited domains licence for krpano to enable some features of Autopano Tour, such as the ability to externalise the XML for futher hand editing, or to use krpano's unique multi-resolution capabilities.
Andrew
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Terry Montague
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Smooth
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Re: comparison of Flash authoring software please
Posted: 3 May 2010 at 19:43 GMT
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Terry Montague said: www.panoramaphotographer.com/comparisons/ might help.
I wouldn't put any credence into that site. I submitted 3 Tourweaver examples to specifications to Keith upon Trausti request and Keith never bothered to add them. We can only assume it is totally bias and self serving for whatever reason/s, otherwise why ask for them, thank somebody in an email reply and never use them? My last emails to Keith went without any response.
Regards, Smooth 
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Terry Montague
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Re: comparison of Flash authoring software please
Posted: 3 May 2010 at 19:48 GMT
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Well maybe we can get to the bottom of that now that it is out in the open. BUT I think it would be hard to claim bias as the site clearly displays every single other pano player that I am aware of, minus Tourweaver of course. Still an extremely useful site IMO.
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Re: comparison of Flash authoring software please
Posted: 3 May 2010 at 19:58 GMT
updated: 14 Mar 2011 at 16:13 GMT
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Skridlov said: Flashificator seemed to be a contender; but that's perhaps because the author was a contributor to the discussion.
Roy
... or maybe it's because it is capable of doing things no other GUI can match?
Many of the Flashificator users can confirm that I have informed of the shortcomings of the program, that it is in active development and therefore prone to have bugs and errors PRIOR to them making their final decision. I am not interested in clients that feel cheated because they expected something else than what they got. Some of those whom I have been in contact with prior to them deciding, have even got advice from me to go for KRP if they didn't want to take the chances with Flashificator.
That is not exactly the money grabbing greedy capitalist way to do things. But I can live with myself by being honest.
Some of the world's best looking/feeling panorama projects have been made with the FPP+FFC combo, and that in itself speaks volumes.
Everything can be improved, and FFC is in constant state of improvements. 70 releases (free updates) in 18 months do tell that part of the story.
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flashificator.com/
flashificator.com/forums
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Smooth
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Re: comparison of Flash authoring software please
Posted: 3 May 2010 at 20:16 GMT
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Terry Montague said: Well maybe we can get to the bottom of that now that it is out in the open. BUT I think it would be hard to claim bias as the site clearly displays every single other pano player that I am aware of, minus Tourweaver of course. Still an extremely useful site IMO.
Hmm, maybe. He has had them since the very beginning of February and doesn't reply to my emails. I had let Trausti know this and now it's on a public forum. So we'll see!
I don't know the motives or reasons. But I do know it's fact from my end.
Regards, Smooth
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Re: comparison of Flash authoring software please
Posted: 3 May 2010 at 20:27 GMT
updated: 14 Mar 2011 at 16:13 GMT
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Yes, you did inform me back then. I would have expected the examples to be up and running... haven't checked the comparison site since we spoke back then...
Let me contact Keith... Maybe he's human like most of us... capable of being busy and even forget things 
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Ken Warner
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Re: comparison of Flash authoring software please
Posted: 3 May 2010 at 21:57 GMT
updated: 3 May 2010 at 22:04 GMT
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I had a small problem updating my presentation. As I recall, Keith did what he thought was the proper update procedure but for some reason it didn't get across to the server.
Maybe that's what happened. I'm pretty sure that Keith is not being deliberately biased.
On the three Tourweaver presentations you submitted, did those use the three images that everybody else used?
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Re: comparison of Flash authoring software please
Posted: 3 May 2010 at 22:39 GMT
updated: 14 Mar 2011 at 16:13 GMT
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I got the following human response from Keith:
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Dang. I'll look back through my mail archives. I get upwards of 150 non-spam emails a day, so I'm guessing this went astray. I'm really very sorry about this!
I have dissertations to read & mark plus a monitor review to write tomorrow, but I'll try to fit it in. I don't want the Comparisons project to be anything other than Just Plain Useful!
Please pass my apologies on to the thread. I'll do this directly when I can.
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This is what can happen to all of us.
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Smooth
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Re: comparison of Flash authoring software please
Posted: 4 May 2010 at 6:26 GMT
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Ken Warner said: On the three Tourweaver presentations you submitted, did those use the three images that everybody else used?
Absolutely! I went out of my way to meet the requirements and then again offered any help or support to get them online.
Trausti, Thanks for looking into this. I didn't want it to look sinister or bias, this is why I contributed so the "majors" were all represented. When it failed to show after considerable time and my emails went un-answered you get a "feeling".
Lets hope all is up and running shortly so fair comparisons can take place.
Regards, Smooth
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Ken Warner
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Re: comparison of Flash authoring software please
Posted: 4 May 2010 at 8:24 GMT
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When Keith gets the Tourweaver viewer integrated, will that be all the viewers? Are there any others?
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Smooth
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Re: comparison of Flash authoring software please
Posted: 4 May 2010 at 8:36 GMT
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Ken Warner said: When Keith gets the Tourweaver viewer integrated, will that be all the viewers? Are there any others?
There are bound to be others, but at least the majors will be listed and shown.
What about: Fusion Player vtfusion.com/fusionplayer.html Maybe they would like to be in on it?
Others?
Regards, Smooth
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Re: comparison of Flash authoring software please
Posted: 4 May 2010 at 8:42 GMT
updated: 14 Mar 2011 at 16:13 GMT
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There are other viewers.... something called copper.... something, then there was a viewer done in the UK.... don't remember it's name... and my own TPP that is not ready for showing off quite yet... and probably a whole lot more. What is important, is to bring forth the "big ones", and TW is absolutely big and established.
Edit: Smooth had the link to the "UK" player I mentioned... "Fusionplayer".
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Ken Warner
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Re: comparison of Flash authoring software please
Posted: 4 May 2010 at 16:24 GMT
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Ok, you let the shark out of the net -- so to speak.
What is TPP? Trausti Panorama Player? Replace FPP?
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