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Tactus 360

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Re: HDR for Dummies
Posted: 3 May 2010 at 14:07 GMT
updated: 2 Sep 2010 at 20:27 GMT
Not quite sure what you mean, Hans.

I have flattened the psd layers, if that is what you are getting at, and saved it as a tiff file before doing anything editorial. Am I missing something along the way.

It is not just a line, but a difference between light and shade that is so prevelant.

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Tactus 360

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Re: HDR for Dummies
Posted: 4 May 2010 at 5:43 GMT
updated: 2 Sep 2010 at 20:27 GMT
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Tactus 360

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Re: HDR for Dummies
Posted: 4 May 2010 at 8:20 GMT
updated: 2 Sep 2010 at 20:27 GMT
It seems to me that the problem occurs with the gaussian blur stage.

I have bumped this and had only one reply. Perhaps there are only a few who have used this technique . . .

Perhaps people just can't be bothered to answer.

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Re: HDR for Dummies
Posted: 4 May 2010 at 8:36 GMT
updated: 14 Mar 2011 at 16:13 GMT
Don't you look at me like that!
I have no experience whatsoever with HDR!
I read you, but can't offer an answer.
If I could, I would. Good luck.
Tactus 360

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Re: HDR for Dummies
Posted: 4 May 2010 at 8:41 GMT
updated: 2 Sep 2010 at 20:27 GMT
I'm not looking any anyone like anything!

It is just that I am certain I am not the only one who wants to benefit from this technique and I am certain that I am not the only one who is using it.

What I do need to know is if anyone has found similar problems and managed to get around them. I am certain that they are out there . . .

And I am certain that they have read this thread!

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Re: HDR for Dummies
Posted: 4 May 2010 at 9:07 GMT
updated: 14 Mar 2011 at 16:13 GMT

Mathrafal said:

I'm not looking any anyone like anything!


I know... just my way of showing support for your request to be answered. I try to learn by reading through everything that I find time to read... (and then I have a beer and forget it all again ... I guess)...

It can be frustrating not having a response to questions one simply knows that are common knowledge by others....
Hans Nyberg

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Re: HDR for Dummies
Posted: 4 May 2010 at 9:25 GMT
Jon

You better provide an example.
If I understand what you get it is an over the 360 wrap problem.
This normally happens if you do some hard optimizing like Shadow-highlight on a full 360 panorama which has not been flattened.

Its a long time since I used Jooks action but as far as I remember it copies your original layer first and at last flattens it all.
If you have used a panorama directly from PTGui it is as default a layer (not flattened) and this will give you the problem as adjustments like this does not work over the 360 wrap.

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Doug Aurand

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Re: HDR for Dummies
Posted: 4 May 2010 at 14:02 GMT
Jon
The example in the Jook Leung's (spelling?) HDR for Dummies show it being applied to an Equirectangular Projection.

So I would assume you can apply it to one without getting the line at the wrap around.

I may have time to try it on a tour I'm doing today and let you know.

Doug Aurand
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Tactus 360

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Re: HDR for Dummies
Posted: 4 May 2010 at 14:16 GMT
updated: 2 Sep 2010 at 20:27 GMT
It seems to occur often, using a flattened psd generated in PTG.

I have found that if I offset the image and then use Leung's method, then the problem doesn't occur, although I can think of no reason why this should be the problem!

Doug, please let me know how you get on with that.

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Doug Aurand

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Re: HDR for Dummies
Posted: 4 May 2010 at 15:52 GMT
Jon
I got a very subtle shift in brightness at the wrap around

I haven't been using the HDR for Dummies much for virtual images, mostly stills and then only occasionaly.

I'm getting good results using both blending functions in Photomatix and then combining those 2 images.

But I tried the HDR for Dummies method on a source image and got a much better view out the windows, more detail & more color

What I used was a source image made by blending 7-8 photos with the Exposure Fusion function. This gives me really great natural colors and better sharpness than the HDR/Tone Mapping function, but the views out bright windows are pretty blown out, though not as bad as a single shot.

I took that image and the 9th bracketed image (-6 EV) and followed the HDR for Dummies process, making some slight variations in the blending percentages

The view out the windows really improved.

When I use the Exposure Fusion function I set the Shadow, Saturation and Midtone sliders all at +2.5 for a set of bracketed image from +2 to -5 or -6EV

Hope that helps

Doug Aurand
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Tim Eastman

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Re: HDR for Dummies
Posted: 4 May 2010 at 16:27 GMT
More relating to Doug's observation about blown out windows with fusion, I have tried taking the fused image with blown out windows and using a luminosity mask with the shot for outside light ( darker ) as the top layer. Pretty quick and seems to work pretty well. Others have better luck fusing:
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Doug Aurand

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Re: HDR for Dummies
Posted: 4 May 2010 at 16:37 GMT
Tim
That looks really good

I'm not quite getting your process, would you elaborate?

Doug Aurand
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Tim Eastman

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Re: HDR for Dummies
Posted: 4 May 2010 at 16:54 GMT
Doug:
The " others " I was referring to was TerryGB whose picture I posted. The thread was from Max Lyons forum:
www.tawbaware.com/forum2/viewtopic.php?p=33820#33...
He manages to get the window and interior right, which is nice because I seem to get either one or the other, leaving the luminosity mask step to fix blown out windows, which I did for this one:
eastmanwoodworking.com/panos/cylburn7.html
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Doug Aurand

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Re: HDR for Dummies
Posted: 4 May 2010 at 17:43 GMT
Tim
Your's looks pretty nice.

All that brite glass and the dark floor and window frames must have been a challenge

Doug Aurand
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