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Re: Stitching Templates
Posted: 7 Feb 2010 at 17:45 GMT
updated: 7 Feb 2010 at 17:49 GMT
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Paul Elton said: Hi Andrew,
I have APT but have not used it yet. I thought I would try and understand APG first!
Currently I am using Pano2vr, do you have any experience of this program?
yes, I also have and use Pano2VR.
How does it compare to APT?
APT didn't exist when I got Pano2VR.
Pano2VR is easy to use to produce single panos in a variety of formats for on-line display. And the patch tool is very nice. IMO Pano2VR is not so easy to use when it comes to creating virtual tours comprising two or more linked panoramas.
APT is a GUI front-end/XML generator for the krpano Panorama Viewer which is the newest, and arguably the most powerful, of the current crop of Flash panorama viewers/players - the others that are most widely used are Flash Panorama Player and Pano2VR.
IMO APT is the easiest tool to use to create multi-pano virtual tours for display on-line using a Flash panorama player, especially if you use APP/APG for stitching.
Flashificator - a GUI front-end/XML generator for Flash Panorama Player (FPP) - is also said to be very easy to use but I have not tried it.
Flashificator appears to offer access, via the GUI front-end, to more of the features of FPP than APT currently does for krpano.
However APT is very easy to use and does the 'basics'of virtual tour creation very well, and it is still very much in development with more features yet to come.
You need to be aware that to get access to all the functionality of APT you also need to have an unlimited domains licence for krpano.
As you know, APT is currently only available as bundle with Autopano Giga (APG) but Kolor, the authors of APP/APG/APT, will offer APT separately at some point when it then be of more interest to users of other stitching programs.
Andrew
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Re: Stitching Templates
Posted: 7 Feb 2010 at 17:53 GMT
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John Houghton said: It may give you one with invisible seams, but the stitch might still be poor.
Can you show me a pano where such a result would be of concern?
Andrew
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Re: Stitching Templates
Posted: 7 Feb 2010 at 17:59 GMT
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Paul Elton said: Maybe PTGui is the way to go - which is a bit of a bummer as I have just invested in APG/APT!
Regards
Paul.
May I remind you that most people on this forum are users, and keen (evangelical?) advocates, of PTGui.
Some people say it's worth having both PTGui and APP/APG.
I've been happy with APP/APG.
Why not download and try PTGui and decide for yourself which suits your requirements best?
Andrew
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Paul Elton
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Re: Stitching Templates
Posted: 7 Feb 2010 at 18:06 GMT
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Andrew - thank you!
All of that was very useful information and I agree with you totally about Pano2vr.
It will be valuable to a lot of us who wish to concentrate more on the visual side of things than actually writing code. Not criticising at all, just that I am not capable of doing the coding but still want to enjoy the process. I take my hat off to the coding experts.
Maybe I will give APT a go now - after all I have paid for it!
Paul
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Re: Stitching Templates
Posted: 7 Feb 2010 at 18:14 GMT
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Paul Elton said: Maybe I will give APT a go now - after all I have paid for it!
Paul
I hope you will.
Be sure to get hold of the latest V1.1 beta 6, from here:
www.autopano.net/forum/t7116-apt-v1.1-beta
And if you run into any problems, or have any questions, there's a dedicated section of the Autopano forum for APT:
www.autopano.net/forum/
Andrew
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badders
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Re: Stitching Templates
Posted: 7 Feb 2010 at 19:53 GMT
updated: 7 Feb 2010 at 19:55 GMT
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Paul Elton said: Does it work because, in effect it does not matter what the content of the scene is, what is important is that the control points are there from the first scene and they help stitch any subsequent pano using the original template no matter what the content?
Yes, that's correct. Templates are a very useful addition to APG and work perfectly well with your setup. You can use them if you are taking 3 or 4 shots around and will increase the accuracy of your stitches. That's of course assuming your template is set correctly in the first instance!
Ignore all the remarks about switching to PTGUI...
Andrew Baddeley
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Hans Nyberg
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Re: Stitching Templates
Posted: 7 Feb 2010 at 20:06 GMT
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Andrew
I can not see anyone told him to switch to PTGui.
I just told him how it works in PTGui and that I do not use Autopano and can not tell him how it works in it.
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Re: Stitching Templates
Posted: 7 Feb 2010 at 20:29 GMT
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Hans Nyberg said: I can not see anyone told him to switch to PTGui.
Neither can I. But the seed of doubt was planted.
AB
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Re: Stitching Templates
Posted: 7 Feb 2010 at 21:22 GMT
updated: 7 Feb 2010 at 21:25 GMT
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badders said: Hans Nyberg said: I can not see anyone told him to switch to PTGui.
Neither can I. But the seed of doubt was planted.
AB
No need to switch to something different if what he has, suits his needs.
Personally, I see no reason to go for anything else but PTGui. I did have a look at autopano a few months back, and found PTGui much easier to use.
Back in the day when I used a player called Pur... something (no need to name it here) ... I would have been very happy to be directed to the better end of the scale. Same goes for Realviz Stitcher... when Hans recommended to go for PTGui and forget about what I was using, I had my doubts (due to being an animal of habit, and I had grown comfortable with Realviz)... once I had tried PTGui a single time, I never even tried to start Realviz up again.
So giving good and honest advice to fellow panographers, is and should be the dish of the day for us all.
I don't have a religious devotion towards PTGui, that's why I didn't find any problem in trying out autopano... PTGui simply works perfectly for my needs.
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John Houghton
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Re: Stitching Templates
Posted: 8 Feb 2010 at 9:39 GMT
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mediavets said: John Houghton said: It may give you one with invisible seams, but the stitch might still be poor.
Can you show me a pano where such a result would be of concern?
Andrew
The result will be of concern (to picky people like me) when straight line featues become obviously distorted. Here is a cubic tile from stitches of two Sunex 5.6mm images: one with a template and one without. The difference is fairly dramatic:
John
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Re: Stitching Templates
Posted: 8 Feb 2010 at 11:03 GMT
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John,
Thanks for the excellent example - I see what you mean now.
Andrew
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