Saty
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Panohead Config Help needed: "MrotatorUT" vs MrotatorTCPSHORT
Posted: 31 Mar 2009 at 7:32 GMT
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Hi,
I want to make good quality panorama for real Estate and the equipment I have decided on is :
Canon EOS 450D,
Sigma 8mm lens,
Manfrotto 555b column leveller on 055 tripod series,
Agnos Panohead MrotatorUT Basic Bracket + Rotator T
I would also like to shoot good quality images of the homes for real estate photography, for that I decided on canon 10-22mm lens.
On communicating with Agnos people, they told me that for Canon 450D + Sigma 8 mm, MrotatorUT will suffice but for Canon 450D + Canon 10-22mm, we will have to go for Mrotator TCP Short as UT will not suffice.
I need help to decide which panohead to go for. Is MrotatorTCP short really required or MrotatorUT will suffice? And for creating good quality panos, will TCP short be better than UT? I came to know that UT has auto clicks and stop feature which TCP short doesn't have.
Moreover, do I need to purchase plates / rings to hold the camera and the lens with the rotator or the basic setup of the panohead will suffice?
Thanks,
Satyendra Mishra
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Smooth
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Re: Panohead Config Help needed: "MrotatorUT" vs MrotatorTCPSHORT
Posted: 31 Mar 2009 at 9:42 GMT
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The MrotatorUT is excellent for lightweight plastic body cameras with Sigma 8mm or Nikkor 10.5mm fisheye. It is lightweight and designed for travel.
The MrotatorTCPshort is a serious heavy duty metal panohead better suited to those who need an everyday panohead that will be subject to a lot of work. It is far more sturdy and allows for more adjustment and is best suited for heavier and larger camera/lens set-ups. You will require this model if you are using the 10-22mm wide angle lens. The "P" (Pro) in the part number means it includes the Manfrotto Quick Release.
One big advantage with the MrotatorTCPs is that you can add the RingT for permanent lens NPP retention and is better suited to those who wish to batch stitch. The "P" in the part number means it includes the Manfrotto Quick Release.
Your camera/lens combination will quite happily attach to the MrotatorTCPShort without the need for any other products.
Regards, Smooth 
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Nick Fan
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Re: Panohead Config Help needed: "MrotatorUT" vs MrotatorTCPSHORT
Posted: 31 Mar 2009 at 10:39 GMT
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Saty said: Hi,
I want to make good quality panorama for real Estate and the equipment I have decided on is :
Canon EOS 450D,
Sigma 8mm lens,
Manfrotto 555b column leveller on 055 tripod series,
Agnos Panohead MrotatorUT Basic Bracket + Rotator T
Besides Agnos, you can also consider NN3II package and the NN3II with R-D8 rotator.
store.nodalninja.com/category_s/32.htm
They are excellent in value and backed up by first class customer support.
Nick
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mediavets
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Re: Panohead Config Help needed: "MrotatorUT" vs MrotatorTCPSHORT
Posted: 31 Mar 2009 at 11:03 GMT
updated: 31 Mar 2009 at 11:08 GMT
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Saty said: Hi,
I want to make good quality panorama for real Estate and the equipment I have decided on is :
Canon EOS 450D,
Sigma 8mm lens,
Manfrotto 555b column leveller on 055 tripod series,
Agnos Panohead MrotatorUT Basic Bracket + Rotator T
I would also like to shoot good quality images of the homes for real estate photography, for that I decided on canon 10-22mm lens.
On communicating with Agnos people, they told me that for Canon 450D + Sigma 8 mm, MrotatorUT will suffice but for Canon 450D + Canon 10-22mm, we will have to go for Mrotator TCP Short as UT will not suffice.
Thanks,
Satyendra Mishra
Are you really intending to use both the Sigma 8mm FE and the Canon 10-22mm WA to shoot panos?
Or will you be using the Sigma 8mm FE to shoot spherical panos and the Canon 10-22mm WA to shoot single WA images?
In either case consider the issues around swapping lenses all the time (increasing chance of getting dust in the body and on the sensor) and mounting/demounting the pano head on the tripod which you will presumably also wish to use when shooting single WA images using the Canon 10-22mm WA lens.
Andrew
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Saty
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Re: Panohead Config Help needed: "MrotatorUT" vs MrotatorTCPSHORT
Posted: 31 Mar 2009 at 12:28 GMT
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I intend to use Sigma 8mm FE for shooting panos and Canon 10-22mm for shooting WA images. From the thread, it appears that MrotatorUT won't suffice with canon 10-22mm and hence will have to go for Mrotator TCP short in case we want to use Canon 10-22mm & Sigma 8mm both.
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Smooth
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Re: Panohead Config Help needed: "MrotatorUT" vs MrotatorTCPSHORT
Posted: 31 Mar 2009 at 13:13 GMT
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Saty said: ... will have to go for Mrotator TCP short in case we want to use Canon 10-22mm & Sigma 8mm both.
This is your best solution with the Mrotator series. It will allow for both lenses no problem at all.
When speaking with Agnos, inform them you have been talking with "Smooth" this typically leads to a small discount on your order or an upgrade on shipping. (it all helps!)
Of course, you can simply point them to this forum thread.
I'm sure you will be very happy with the MrotatorTCPS panohead.
Regards, Smooth
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tturner
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Re: Panohead Config Help needed: "MrotatorUT" vs MrotatorTCPSHORT
Posted: 31 Mar 2009 at 14:02 GMT
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Forgive me if I misread your thread but...
If you are shooting conventional wide angle stills with the 10-22mm then you need a conventional still head for that job task. I guess you could shoot stills from a pano head but your range of movement would be limited.
Just my thoughts,
TTurner
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Saty
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Re: Panohead Config Help needed: "MrotatorUT" vs MrotatorTCPSHORT
Posted: 31 Mar 2009 at 14:48 GMT
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Thanks a lot Smooth, nick, mediavets and tturner for your posts and opinions. I have zeroed on MrotatorUT as it suffices my needs at the time(450D + Sigma 8 mm) though I agree that TCP short will be better if I want to use 10-22mm too.
Now I am left with one more query.
Do I need to purchase any plates / rings to hold the camera and the lens with the rotator or the basic setup of the MrotatorUT panohead will suffice? Do I need to have any other stuff to put on tripod for balancing needs?
My complete kit for shooting panos:
Canon EOS 450D,
Sigma 8mm lens,
Manfrotto 555b column leveller on 055 tripod series,
Agnos Panohead MrotatorUT Basic Bracket + Rotator T
Thanks,
Satyendra Mishra
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Saty
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Re: Panohead Config Help needed: "MrotatorUT" vs MrotatorTCPSHORT
Posted: 19 May 2009 at 10:23 GMT
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I purchased Agnos MrotatorUT. While going through the a reporting manual, www.agnos.com/dati/download/reports/mrotatoru350d..., I saw that they also have used a Ball head in between MrotatorUT Pano head and Tripod. Do I too need to purchase a ball head or it will work without ball head too? Haven't purchased a tripod yet, but will be doing that in few days, hence have this doubt.
Moreover, I see a spirit level in the Agnos panohead, which provokes to ask that do I really need a leveller now? Can this spirit level suffice?
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Smooth
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Re: Panohead Config Help needed: "MrotatorUT" vs MrotatorTCPSHORT
Posted: 19 May 2009 at 13:01 GMT
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The Agnos MrotatorUT can be screwed directly to the tripod and leveled with the legs with the panohead bubble spirit level as the gauge.
Or you can mount it on a ball head and level via the ball head movement using the panohead bubble spirit level as the gauge.
Or better still, use a Manfrotto #222 pistol grip leveler and adjust the level using the panohead bubble spirit level as the gauge.
Regards, Smooth
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