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PTGUI vs. Autopano
Posted: 23 Aug 2008 at 16:23 GMT
updated: 3 Aug 2009 at 21:59 GMT
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What are peoples' thoughts on this? Anything welcome 
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Hans Nyberg
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Location: Denmark
Registered: 28 Aug 2005
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Re: PTGUI vs. Autopano
Posted: 23 Aug 2008 at 18:08 GMT
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You can start looking at the actual stitching time.
I tested the current speedtest from this thread.
www.panoguide.com/forums/qna/5220/
This is a very small output just 5000x2500 from 6 fisheye images.
My test on my MacBook Pro 2 year old Intel duo 2.16mhz 2gb ram
got this timings.
PTgui with PTGui default blender. 1 min 07 sec
PTGui w Enblend 3.1 1 min 42 sec
Autopano Pro 1.4.2 w. smartblend 5 min 42 sec
Note that this was a very small output. If you use what I normally do a size of around 10000x5000 you have to think in render times of 30-60 minutes w, Autopano.
PTGui does that in 6-10 min.
From earlier tests I know that the windows version of Autopano is even slower.
Hans
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DorinDXN
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Re: PTGUI vs. Autopano
Posted: 23 Aug 2008 at 18:25 GMT
updated: 23 Aug 2008 at 18:28 GMT
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Hi James, Yes Hans is right, because both are comercial software very few will invest money in both and invest time as well to have the latest release and enough experience to give unbiased review about one versus another. Even if were freeware one usually uses much which one gives first some consistent result then the other software is somehow labeled as having different philosophy..
Maybe if you ask about a particular aspect you can receive some usefull answers.
Dorin
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mhc1
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Re: PTGUI vs. Autopano
Posted: 23 Aug 2008 at 19:01 GMT
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Hm- the 2 concepts are so different that I personally don´t spent too much time comparing these 2.
All images PTGUI can stitch - also Autopano can and vice versa.
The handling - once learned - of PTGUI is much more logicial - for me.
But if you start with APP - then you would speak different I guess.
Time is an issue though - I found APP - as Hans mentioned- much slower as PTGUI.
Ciao
Mike
www.360de.de
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Re: PTGUI vs. Autopano
Posted: 23 Aug 2008 at 20:09 GMT
updated: 3 Aug 2009 at 21:59 GMT
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Thanks for the replies everyone.
I've been trying out the demo of Autopano against the copy of PTGUI I bought... I agree, Autopano is very slow in comparison.
I'm trying to do 'gigapixel' panoramas, and so far in PTGUI haven't managed to get multi-row wraparound panoramas to work at all, but managed it in Autopano.
Does anyone know if PTGUI is capable of doing multirow panoramas that join all the way around?
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John Houghton
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Re: PTGUI vs. Autopano
Posted: 23 Aug 2008 at 20:46 GMT
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Of course PTGui can do multi-row 360x180 panoramas. It has been capable of doing that for the last 8 years or more. In fact, PTGui knows nothing about rows and columns - just images that overlap. Assign control points in the overlap areas and the optimizer will try to bring all the marked features into alignment. PTGui offers full manual control at all stages, and that is often very useful for overcoming problems that can arise when tackling complex projects. Certainly you need to learn how to do some small projects before even thinking about gigapixel panoramas. If you haven't managed to do any successful stitches with PTGui, you can try this beginners tutorial for stitching a 360x180 project:
www.johnhpanos.com/ptgtut.htm
John
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mediavets
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Re: PTGUI vs. Autopano
Posted: 23 Aug 2008 at 21:34 GMT
updated: 23 Aug 2008 at 21:39 GMT
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mhc1 said:
The handling - once learned - of PTGUI is much more logicial - for me.
But if you start with APP - then you would speak different I guess.
Mike
www.360de.de
Yes. I find APP far more intuitive and easy to use.
Andrew
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mediavets
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Re: PTGUI vs. Autopano
Posted: 23 Aug 2008 at 21:47 GMT
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John Houghton said: In fact, PTGui knows nothing about rows and columns - just images that overlap.
John
That is also true of the current version of APP - but the next version, V2.0, will have a feature that 'knows' about rows and columns specifically to facilitate stitching of high-res panos shot with motorised pano heads (Gigapan, Merlin/Orion, Pixorb and Clauss Rodeon) - but which could also be helpful with some panos shot with manual pano heads.
www.autopano.net/forum/t4096-autopano-pro-2.0-aut...
Andrew
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spyboy
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Re: PTGUI vs. Autopano
Posted: 24 Aug 2008 at 1:42 GMT
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I was 100% PTGui for a long time, then when APP supported fisheyes, I started using that more.
APP is still the only tool for handheld shots off a regular lens.
I'm back to PTGui for my 360 pano stitching, but will occasionally drop a file into APP if it doesn't play nice with PTGui and I don't feel like messing with all the settings (when I'm trying to do a quick stitch to verify the shots on location)
I'll still support both though, since I shoot 360's as well as handheld panoramas (I don't know what you'd call those, not a full 360, just a scenic vista type shot)
Kirk
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Re: PTGUI vs. Autopano
Posted: 24 Aug 2008 at 14:14 GMT
updated: 3 Aug 2009 at 21:59 GMT
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Thanks everyone, some interesting info.
I've successfully made 360 panoramas using a fisheye (handheld and with a NN3 panohead).
Does anyone know of a tutorial or have any advice for stitching several flat pictures together. To explain myself better, I have a large picture hanging on a wall, and haven't had any success stitching pictures together that I took by moving the camera and keeping it straight on to the picture.
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John Houghton
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Re: PTGUI vs. Autopano
Posted: 24 Aug 2008 at 16:09 GMT
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spyboy said: I'll still support both though, since I shoot 360's as well as handheld panoramas (I don't know what you'd call those, not a full 360, just a scenic vista type shot)
They're known as partial panoramas - i.e. not the complete view.
John
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Hans Nyberg
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Re: PTGUI vs. Autopano
Posted: 24 Aug 2008 at 16:21 GMT
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jamesprinter said: Thanks everyone, some interesting info.
Does anyone know of a tutorial or have any advice for stitching several flat pictures together. To explain myself better, I have a large picture hanging on a wall, and haven't had any success stitching pictures together that I took by moving the camera and keeping it straight on to the picture.
I suppose you mean that you moved along the wall.
That is called linear panoramas.
I would say that it is best made by hand in Photoshop.
Some people do it in Hugin and also Autopano claims that they can do it.
Here is a Hugin tutorial
www.dojoe.net/tutorials/linear-pano/
However the old simple and free Canon Photostitch actually has a special option for it.
Hans
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Re: PTGUI vs. Autopano
Posted: 24 Aug 2008 at 17:46 GMT
updated: 3 Aug 2009 at 21:59 GMT
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Thanks Hans! I remember Canon PhotoStitch, and used it extensively 5 years ago. Thanks
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ebig
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Re: Parallel movement.
Posted: 24 Aug 2008 at 18:08 GMT
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Canon supplies the program Photostitch with camera software - it has a stitch setting for assembling images made by moving the camera parallel to the subject.
Another setting is to assemble multiple scanned images.
This setting also makes a good attempt to stitch photos taken at slightly different focal lengths or image sizes.
While it can do a unique and excellent job, for most work PTGui (for example) outputs higher quality images.
Regards,
Ed
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Re: Parallel movement.
Posted: 24 Aug 2008 at 22:10 GMT
updated: 3 Aug 2009 at 21:59 GMT
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Can PTGUI also do this job?
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