Nick Fan
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Product dedicated for Peleng and Zenitar fisheye?
Posted: 16 Jul 2008 at 12:03 GMT
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Are they good enough for me to buy them and spend the effort to make dedicated product for them?
any one using them and feel neglected by hardware manufacturers? 
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Peter Patricelli
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Re: Product dedicated for Peleng and Zenitar fisheye?
Posted: 16 Jul 2008 at 13:58 GMT
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Nick,
I can't speak to the Zenitar. I have the Peleng and, like the Panosaurus, it was an introduction/learning tool until I was sure I wanted to jump into this more aggressively. I now have the Nik 10.5 for my D2X and the Nik 16mm for my full frame Kodak 14N, and the NN5.
My guess is that many, perhaps as much as 1/3 of the posters here (I'm pulling numbers out of the air and guessing based on the familiarity and experience with Pelengs that comes out when there is a question about them) have had a similar experience and evolution.
Since I'm primarily interested in outdoor scenic pans at the highest resolution the Peleng is sitting unused, and not sure when it might get re-activated unless my interests or demands morph in another direction. But it was a hoot to use and I made some very good pans with it.
No, I don't feel neglected. But I would be happy to let you play with my Peleng and sometime in the future we might work out a trade for something.
Peter Patricelli
www.flyfishingfotography.com
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Doug Aurand
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Re: Product dedicated for Peleng and Zenitar fisheye?
Posted: 16 Jul 2008 at 14:41 GMT
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Nick
We could answer better if we knew what you mean by a "dedicated product" and what other lenses you're making them for?
Doug Aurand
Albuqerque, NM
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mediavets
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Re: Product dedicated for Peleng and Zenitar fisheye?
Posted: 16 Jul 2008 at 15:08 GMT
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Nick Fan said: Are they good enough for me to buy them and spend the effort to make dedicated product for them
nick
No, IMO.
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Nick Fan
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Re: Product dedicated for Peleng and Zenitar fisheye?
Posted: 16 Jul 2008 at 15:17 GMT
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Doug Aurand said: Nick
We could answer better if we knew what you mean by a "dedicated product" and what other lenses you're making them for?
Doug Aurand
Albuqerque, NM
if I ask for them, the more popular ones much have been included. dedicated means will not fit other lens.
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Nick Fan
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Re: Product dedicated for Peleng and Zenitar fisheye?
Posted: 16 Jul 2008 at 15:27 GMT
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Peter Patricelli said: I now have the Nik 10.5 for my D2X and the Nik 16mm for my full frame Kodak 14N.
Thanks for your offer. Wow, we definitely will have something good for you. Do you use Nikon 16mm on 14N often? Does it give better pictures from 10.5mm on D2x?
You know I am tempted to get a used 5D for testing.
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ebig
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Re: Product dedicated for Peleng and Zenitar fisheye?
Posted: 16 Jul 2008 at 17:05 GMT
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Both lenses work well with other NN products.
In that the availability and user base is limited, I would question the utility of a dedicated version.
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Ed
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Jurgen Eidt
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Re: Product dedicated for Peleng and Zenitar fisheye?
Posted: 16 Jul 2008 at 21:22 GMT
updated: 16 Jul 2008 at 21:32 GMT
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Nick, please keep in mind that the Zenitar is a full frame fish eye and not everyone has a full frame camera.
On the APS-C the Zenitar is not much of a fish eye anymore and comparable with a 17mm wide angle lens.
You are talking about a panoramic adapter mounted to the lens directly?
Viele Grüße
Jürgen
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Vilmer
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Re: Product dedicated for Peleng and Zenitar fisheye?
Posted: 16 Jul 2008 at 22:33 GMT
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If you mean a 'ring around the lens' like solution, I would buy one for the peleng. But if I'm not mistaking, I saw in another post that 360 precision also has plans in that direction with the atome model.
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Peter Patricelli
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Re: Product dedicated for Peleng and Zenitar fisheye?
Posted: 17 Jul 2008 at 1:04 GMT
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Nick,
"Do you use Nikon 16mm on 14N often? Does it give better pictures from 10.5mm on D2x"
Well, the two set ups are very similar in terms of FOV. I use exactly the same shooting sequences and get very comparable images. The D2X (mounted on the NN5) may have a very slight edge, but noticeable only at the extremes of cropping. But not even sure of that as my initial work with the 14N (mounted on the panosaurus) was with jpgs and now I shoot raw to tif with the D2X. Haven't compared with a raw to tif with the 14N. As the 14N is zero'd on the Panosaurus I have left it there and not bothered finding the NPP with it on the NN5, leaving that head dedicated for the D2X. I need both a FF camera for my 20mm and 28mm lenses AND the crop factor of the D2X for boosted telephoto work. So I swap out a lot but always have a pan head ready.
And just what surprise gadget/gizmo might you have in the works?
Peter Patricelli
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