Rim
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Best camera settings for pano with moving people
Posted: 11 May 2008 at 23:49 GMT
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Hi,
So far, I have only made panos without moving subjects. I usually shoot at F8, ISO 100, using a D80 + 10.5 + 360Precision.
A friend ask me to do some panos with moving people at a event next Wednesday and I'm not sure what settings should I use to avoid blurred faces and bodies.
I'm not so worried about the stitching part. I think I should take as many pictures as possible, choose the best ones and work with Photoshop layers.
I was thinking that it is important to use the fastest shutter speed possible... Not so sure about what ISO would be best... maybe 400? or 800? (these panos will be displayed in full screen so I'm a little worried about using high ISOs and getting too grainy pics...)
And should I shoot RAW? (thinking about how much time it takes the memory card to record a RAW picture I'm thinking shooting in JPG can help me shoot the panos faster...)
I would really appreciate any tips or advices!
Regards,
Rim
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Doug Aurand
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Re: Best camera settings for pano with moving people
Posted: 12 May 2008 at 3:03 GMT
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Rim
The fact that you're shooting a virtual image doesn't change the limitations of your camera and the available light.
You're going to have to increase the ISO, open the Aperature and shoot at faster shutter speeds
Pretty much you'll have to use settings more typical for still photos and not use RAW so there's a minimum of movement between shots as you rotate.
You've got it figured out, there's no magic wand
This is where the wider lenses like the Sigma 8mm, Sunex 5.6mm and outrageaously expensive Coastal Optics 4.88mm have an advantage over the Nikkor 10.5mm since they all need fewer shots around horizontal; 4, 3 and 2 respectively
Doug Aurand
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michael medina
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Re: Best camera settings for pano with moving people
Posted: 12 May 2008 at 4:46 GMT
updated: 12 May 2008 at 4:48 GMT
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i'm not sure why NOT shooting raw could help in any way, i think the camera could save the file faster than you could rotate the head unless you are using some sort of very old slow memory card or using long exposure noise reduction (which if you are, then you have blurry people).
i shoot bracketed exposures with moving people and cars all the time, yes some of them are blurry sometimes, but if i can take the time to bracket and get good results, the surely you can shoot raw.
what lighting conditions will this be in ?
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Rim
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Re: Best camera settings for pano with moving people
Posted: 12 May 2008 at 18:29 GMT
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Thanks Doug and Michael!
Michael: I'll be shooting at a indoor conference center with pretty good ilumination.
Best regards,
Rim
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Hamish Tear
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Re: Best camera settings for pano with moving people
Posted: 12 May 2008 at 18:50 GMT
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Doug,
Just a small point here - Bill Bailey at NN once advised me that the true 'sweet spot' of the Sigma 8mm lens is realized at 6 shots around. I'm inclined to believe the people 'in the biz', but have yet to see a concurring opinion on this or truly see the difference myself - but then my work is still being honed.
For various reasons, I recently switched from the Sigma 8mm to the Nikkor 10.5mm
Hamish.
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Hamish Tear
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Re: Best camera settings for pano with moving people
Posted: 12 May 2008 at 18:56 GMT
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I'm new at this too, but the D80 should not suffer too much with noise at ISO 800. If you've gotta go there to get your shot - then that's what you gotta do.
You didn't mention what stitcher you use - but Smartblend in Stitcher 5.6 pro seems to deal with the moving subjects very well automatically. Or - use the polygon tool to cut out the
parts you don't want from individual layers.
Hamish
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Roundshot
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Re: Best camera settings for pano with moving people
Posted: 12 May 2008 at 19:23 GMT
updated: 12 May 2008 at 19:24 GMT
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You can speed up rotation with a motor drive as follows:
e.g. MK PanoMachine
www.vr-head.com/english/MK_PanoMachine.html
Highspeed for little money
Additionally to the production of „normal“ 360° panoramas in the stitching procedure it is possible for the first time to move the camera very fast.
Thanks to its fast speed it is feasible to photograph street scenes, city life, people, dynamic landscapes etc. in high quality, without investing into expensive technology and having even more expenses.
Marc
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Rim
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Re: Best camera settings for pano with moving people
Posted: 13 May 2008 at 4:13 GMT
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Thanks Hamish and Marc!
Marc: the panoMachine looks very nice, I will consider it for the future.
Hamish: I think your're right, shooting at ISO 800 (if necessary) with the D80 should still be within an acceptable quality range.
I'm using PTGui (I'll definitely use it with SmartBlend after the tip you just gave me).
Thanks a lot!
Rim
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mhc1
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Re: Best camera settings for pano with moving people
Posted: 16 May 2008 at 15:19 GMT
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Rim
I used the D80 for quite a time wiht a Sigma 8 // Nikon 10.5.
Try to avoid more then ISO 400. It depends on the environment, but i had some political dinners in dim lights with ISO 640, some stage panos with ISO 800 --> all very noisy.
The reason was that I underexposed a litte to protect the highlihts from burning out. Forget this technic: just let the burn if they want :=).
If you underexpose and push it up afterwards it´s nothing else as increasing ISO then - and noise.
It was OK with ISO 400 and no underexposure - not like some Canon guys did, but acceptable.
The denoising programs work also a litte different though.
Imagetronic (Noiseware Professional) seemed the best to me.
ciao
mike
www.360de.de
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