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Peter Patricelli

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The "new", complete, STONEHENGE!
Posted: 19 Apr 2008 at 16:13 GMT
I just put up a series of Stonehenge panoramas up on my website.....without leaving the USA.

The link starts with an explanation as to how this got built where it is. If you don't want to bother reading it, go to the following pages.

www.flyfishingfotography.com/stonehenge-maryhill_...

Peter Patricelli
www.flyfishingfotography.com
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mediavets

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Location: Isleham, Cambs., United Kingdom
Registered: 8 Feb 2008
Re: The "new", complete, STONEHENGE!
Posted: 19 Apr 2008 at 16:29 GMT
updated: 19 Apr 2008 at 16:29 GMT
I liked the story behind the panos.

What I don't understand is why you end up with so much of the NN pano head displayed in your stitched panos.

I shoot with a D40 and Nikkor 10.5mm FE and Sigma 8mm f3.5 FE lenses on a NN5 and I don't end up with that pano head bracketry in my panos.

What camera/lens are you using and what shooting technique?

Andrew
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Vilmer

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Re: The
Posted: 19 Apr 2008 at 17:16 GMT
You have made some errors in the links to the *.mov files. they generate 'page not found' errors
http://www.flyfishingfotography.com/%5C%5Cwww.flyfishingfotography.com%5Cwebpics%5CStonehenge%202.mov

should be
www.flyfishingfotography.com/webpics/Stonehenge%202.mov

I guess..
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michael medina

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Re: The
Posted: 19 Apr 2008 at 17:22 GMT
peter, when were you out there, was it last weekend ?

the balsamroot looks like it's on the way quickly, do you think it's still coming or is it past ?

i'll be out there in the same area this week shooting some panos too.


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Peter Patricelli

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Location: Eugene, OR, United States
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Re: The
Posted: 19 Apr 2008 at 17:56 GMT
Vilmer,
Specifically WHICH link(s) don't work? I just ran through the set and looked at the links and they all looked good and all worked. Anyone else having trouble?

I wrote a very long and detailed reply to Andrew and it disappeared into cyberspace. Poof! No idea where or why. Too ehausting to write it again. The short answer is that because I may, within minutes, also be shooting wildlife with a 23# 600mm lens, the tripod is very large and very heavy and for a non-commercial, just for fun pano, it is not practical to dismount the 3 way Manfrotto 3047 head and attach the NN5 directly, and then go back minutes later.

Michael, yes the Balsamroot so coming on. Another week or two. But it will not be anything like it was 8 years back:

www.flyfishingfotography.com/dalles_mt_ranch_new_...

Peter Patricelli
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gus

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Re: The "new", complete, STONEHENGE!
Posted: 19 Apr 2008 at 18:21 GMT

mediavets said:

What I don't understand is why you end up with so much of the NN pano head displayed in your stitched panos.

Andrew


I get the same when I tilt the camera down slightly, but remove the hardware using quickmask.
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mediavets

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Re: The
Posted: 19 Apr 2008 at 19:13 GMT

Peter Patricelli said:

I wrote a very long and detailed reply to Andrew and it disappeared into cyberspace. Poof! No idea where or why. Too ehausting to write it again. The short answer is that because I may, within minutes, also be shooting wildlife with a 23# 600mm lens, the tripod is very large and very heavy and for a non-commercial, just for fun pano, it is not practical to dismount the 3 way Manfrotto 3047 head and attach the NN5 directly, and then go back minutes later.

Peter Patricelli
www.flyfishingfotography.com


It's not the control arms of the tripod head I was talking about but parts of the NN5 head.

I shoot 6-around at -10 degrees and one up at +60 degrees with my Nikkor 10.5mm FE on the D40, do no special masking or anything like that, and after stitching and rendering with Smartblend using Autopano Pro get nothing of the NN5 rails in my pano. Likewise shooting with the Sigma 8mm FE 4-around at +5 degrees. Just leaves a small nadir 'hole' over the position of the main 'knob' on the NN5 pano rotator.

Andrew
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michael medina

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Re: The
Posted: 19 Apr 2008 at 19:17 GMT
i'm guessing that he shoots a straight down shot on the tripod.
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Peter Stark

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Re: The "new", complete, STONEHENGE!
Posted: 19 Apr 2008 at 19:18 GMT
Vilmer,
Specifically WHICH link(s) don't work? I just ran through the set and looked at the links and they all looked good and all worked. Anyone else having trouble?


The links on this page: www.flyfishingfotography.com/stonehenge-maryhill_...

Both IE and Firefox failed to load the pages, I eventually saw them using Opera, knew I must have had a reason for installing that.

Ped
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Smooth

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Re: The
Posted: 19 Apr 2008 at 19:18 GMT
updated: 19 Apr 2008 at 19:19 GMT
Andrew,

It is because a -90 down shot/nadir has been taken of the panohead and stitched into the panorama. It's that simple!

Regards, Smooth cool
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Smooth

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Re: The "new", complete, STONEHENGE!
Posted: 19 Apr 2008 at 19:21 GMT
Ped,

There are NO hyperlink errors regardless of browser used. Your computer is at fault. Maybe needs re-booting?

Regards, Smooth cool
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Peter Patricelli

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Location: Eugene, OR, United States
Registered: 20 Dec 2006
Re: The
Posted: 19 Apr 2008 at 20:11 GMT
Smooth and others have it right. It had been awhile since I had shots panos, only 2nd time using the NN5, forgot about the NN5 arm issue. It was cold. It was windy. I had someone waiting for me. It was 6+2, quick and dirty. At least they all processed in about 15 minutes per. Lots of ways to eliminate that arm if I just remember to do it.

And, for sure, standard Internet Explorer on my computer does not get an error. Not sure why other are having problems with IE unless it has to do with their protection system??

Peter Patricelli
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Vilmer

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Location: Argentina
Registered: 23 May 2007
Re: The
Posted: 20 Apr 2008 at 3:39 GMT
Hi Peter,
the link that Peter Stark just typed www.flyfishingfotography.com/stonehenge-maryhill_... gives me weird links. I have made a screenshot while hoovering my mouse over the 2nd pano thumbnail.
See it here:
http://img149.imageshack.us/img149/7889/panoguideqx8.jpg


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Ronald
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zxcvbnm

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Re: The
Posted: 20 Apr 2008 at 11:10 GMT
updated: 20 Apr 2008 at 11:12 GMT
Yeah I think its because there are spaces in his file names which some browser can't cope with. On my Firefox 2 windows xp I have the same problem. Internet explorer 6 copes fine though, as it should seeing as the spaces are Microsoft ones. I don't know why it works for smooth in other browsers perhaps he is using non xp or just has more updated bits.

If he wants to fix it he just needs to rename his mov files and links to have no spaces in them and then it should work for everybody. Or alternatively replace the spaces in the link with %2 so you link to www.flyfishingfotography.com/webpics/Stonehenge%2...
instead of
www.flyfishingfotography.com/webpics/Stonehenge 01.mov
that is Stonehenge%201.mov instead of Stonehenge 01.mov

If you go straight to www.flyfishingfotography.com/webpics/ you can see all the panoramas directly in the directory including the first two linked to from the web page, though I prefer number 7.

They are nicely made panoramas though personally I think the original has more romance.
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Peter Patricelli

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Location: Eugene, OR, United States
Registered: 20 Dec 2006
Re: The
Posted: 20 Apr 2008 at 11:51 GMT
zxcbnm,
I suspect you are correct regarding the spaces. I am using XP and IE. There are several considerably larger reasons for me wanting to get this straight.

Is it possible that the space issue only causes problems on .mov files? No one ever complains about loading problems or bad links with the regular pages with .jpg files. The next possibility is that this is the first time I linked directly to the host (and to THIS host) rather than loading the pano onto a page in my website and having it called through the website controlled and scripted, html system. I think by doing this I brought the whole space and %2 issue into play.

When I first constructed my website I used the original version of Webeasy Professional. It was OK but had a lot of bugs. When I upgraded to the next version for stability the linking within the website was incompatible with what I already had constructed because of spacing "Sam Hill" versus "Sam_Hill" in the final html. Rather than go back and re-do the whole extensive original site I chose to do my construction of new site elements with the upgraded program but to upload the work to my host through the original version to keep the name conventions correct. That has worked, marginally and clunkily until now.

I will rename and ask some of you who had problems to try again to see if I have solved the problem.

Thanks.

Peter Patricelli
www.flyfishingfofography.com
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