Jimtschetter
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vrbrochure versus tourweaver vrs whatever!
Posted: 3 Apr 2008 at 18:56 GMT
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Hi...i just did a search though this forum for info on vrbrochure and the posts were a little old. Anyone have any recent experience with it? I downloaded a trial version of tourweaver and vrbrochure and found the vrbrochure to have a better interface and seemed more intuitive. Any thoughts, comments or suggestions on these or other similar products would be appreciated.
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mhc1
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Location: Hamburg, Germany
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Re: vrbrochure versus tourweaver vrs whatever!
Posted: 3 Apr 2008 at 20:53 GMT
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Yes , I thought the same.
But unfortunately VRBrochure has s.th. like a standstill in development.
The versions I tried all where very very faulty besides there was a lack if fullscreen-function etc.
Tourweaver was much more professional but I cannot live with there licensing modell because we use Notebooks all over and have to change license very complicated though the internet - which is not availabe on tour.You have to get used to their interface - but it´s not that complicated.
Fotunately there Helges JATC who does the job very good and is shortly to implement FPP - so besides Immervision (which is implemented already very good) there will be a second fullscreen-able viewer shortly.
JATC tours are not comparable to the upper both but usinf iFrames I guess it´s easy to make a professional tour like VRBrochure and may be as Tourweaver too - this I think will be very hard though.
Ciao
Mike
www.360de.de
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Smooth
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Location: Australia
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Re: vrbrochure versus tourweaver vrs whatever!
Posted: 4 Apr 2008 at 3:48 GMT
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mhc1 said: Tourweaver was much more professional but I cannot live with there licensing modell because we use Notebooks all over and have to change license very complicated though the internet - which is not availabe on tour.You have to get used to their interface - but it´s not that complicated.
Not sure why you would find the licensing modal difficult or bad? It is one of the best, fairest and easiest to use in my opinion. You purchase Tourweaver and you are allowed to install on (2) computers of your choice LEGALLY. You can transfer either one of the two (or both at the same time) anytime you like and assign them to another computer/s at will. This is useful if you are away from your own computers and need access to the program. Be it at a library or friend/clients house etc.
Anyway, if that's too difficult you are a very hard person to please when 90+% of software only allows (1) license to be used on (1) computer LEGALLY.
As for your thoughts on VR Brochure (Australian Made) I 100% agree it is woeful.
Regards, Smooth 
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mhc1
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Re: vrbrochure versus tourweaver vrs whatever!
Posted: 4 Apr 2008 at 7:43 GMT
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Hm - did they change their model ?
I have in mind that I can install it on 1 computer at a time- which is OK.
But the second one to use has to transfer the license via internet- so both has to connect one to giev the license, the other to receive it.
I could live with alicense transfer - but not though the internet though because it´s not availabe all times.
But it´s surely the best tour-generating software on the market at the moment.
ciao
mike
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rudders
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Re: vrbrochure versus tourweaver vrs whatever!
Posted: 4 Apr 2008 at 9:14 GMT
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Really happy Easypano let you have 2 installs. I agree with mike and smooth.. you don't always have internet access and you never know when you might need to transfer a license so Easypanos descision on allowing this is a godsend.. 1 install in the studio and another on the laptop when out on site..
Tourweaver seems to be really coming of age now. Although there are still a few bugs, its much better than vr brochure IMO.
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Hans Nyberg
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Re: vrbrochure versus tourweaver vrs whatever!
Posted: 4 Apr 2008 at 11:01 GMT
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Actually you need an internet connection to deactivate and reactivate it if you need to use it on a second computer.
At least that is how I understand this.
www.easypano.com/product-activation.html
www.easypano.com/activate_overview.html#activatio...
Its funny that they have this stupid license when Adobe and most other companies allow 2 computers simultaneously.
Some software like my IView Media Pro will not open it on both computers if they are connected but you just need to close it on one of them and then you can use it on any other computer.
The price for the Tourweaver is in my opinon far to high, even with the current dollar price $699 is at least 300 to much for what they offer.
Hans
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DorinDXN
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Re: vrbrochure versus tourweaver vrs whatever!
Posted: 4 Apr 2008 at 11:25 GMT
updated: 4 Apr 2008 at 11:27 GMT
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Hi all, I just installed Tourweaver 3.0 pro on the second computer and seems to work simultaneously I'll no try on the third though 
If anyone care about my recommendations that will be
From your first profit from your pano bussiness buy Tourweaver pro. You'll not regret it.
From the second profit buy PTGui
Dorin
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Smooth
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Location: Australia
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Re: vrbrochure versus tourweaver vrs whatever!
Posted: 4 Apr 2008 at 11:35 GMT
updated: 4 Apr 2008 at 11:35 GMT
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mhc1 said: Hm - did they change their model ?
Yes, they did change this with the release of version 3.0 after consumer feedback.
To respond to Hans yes, an Internet connection is needed to deactivate but this in this day and age would hardly be an issue of any great concern. Let's say you have one license in your office/studio and the other license unassigned (until needed) when you visit an Internet Café or Library you assign to complete the job and then unassign at job completion. But really who is stitching away from they own studio/office or Laptop? (Two licenses should be plenty, and Easypano offer personal deals should more be required.)
Better still, if you have your own Laptop/Notebook this will never be needed unless you are upgrading and that case you can just remove your license and sell the computer/harddrive with the Tourweaver Program still installed and it reverts back to trial mode.
Adobe may well allow installation on 2 computers but they still have the most pirated software on the planet next to Microsoft and with the money they charge (and get) they can afford it anyway. Unlike the relatively small panorama software industry.
Really, the model now being used by Easypano works very well in my opinion.
Is it overpriced? $199.00 for the Standard version and $699.00 for the PRO which is 100% advertisement and brand FREE. Really used correctly you will recover your outlay after 2 or 3 well compiled tours. Personally I feel it is overpriced as I think $499.00 would be about right. But it sells and generally people are happy and too date there is nothing better for Tours unless you want to hand script and even then it comes with right click adverts.
Regards, Smooth
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Smooth
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Re: vrbrochure versus tourweaver vrs whatever!
Posted: 4 Apr 2008 at 11:40 GMT
updated: 4 Apr 2008 at 11:40 GMT
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Hans Nyberg said: Actually you need an internet connection to deactivate and reactivate it if you need to use it on a second computer.
At least that is how I understand this.
www.easypano.com/product-activation.html
www.easypano.com/activate_overview.html#activatio...
Its funny that they have this stupid license when Adobe and most other companies allow 2 computers simultaneously.
No that is no longer correct (that was from long ago when you purchased only (1) license) these days you get (2) license with your purchase!) You can have two instances running at the very same time on 2 computers. No problem at all.
Regards, Smooth
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Hans Nyberg
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Re: vrbrochure versus tourweaver vrs whatever!
Posted: 4 Apr 2008 at 11:53 GMT
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Than I would recommend them to say that clearly on the pages which I referred to.
It can be said i 12 words
"With a standard license you may install the software on 2 computers"
Hans
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Smooth
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mhc1
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Re: vrbrochure versus tourweaver vrs whatever!
Posted: 4 Apr 2008 at 13:48 GMT
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Yes Hans the price for the Porfessional Version is too high
699 €, but the Standard Version is 179 €.
Think that VRBrochure is not cheaper 299 USD is app. 195 €.
So they both are comparable by price.
But as far as I know: VRBrochure has no FullScreen capabilities - this Tourweaver has.
A very great advantage in my eyes.
I don´t know if the "Template" system - which both of them work with - is useful or not. I remember that you could change grafics etc. in Tourweaver just by clicking on it - VRBrochure was much more difficult.
But they may have changed this recently.
Ciao
Mike
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Smooth
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Re: vrbrochure versus tourweaver vrs whatever!
Posted: 4 Apr 2008 at 14:31 GMT
updated: 4 Apr 2008 at 14:32 GMT
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As a general tip I would suggest that you purchase in whatever is the cheapest amount be it USD, AUD, Euro or GB Pounds and pay via Visa or Mastercard. The conversion will be done automatically by the credit card company.
The complaint has been raised before that the conversion is not accurate via the online store and can have big price variations. This is NOT controlled by Easypano but Element5 ecommerce.
To compare currency rates please check www.xe.com
I should also state it is up to you to make the decision on how this effects your various country tax gst/vat laws.
As for the "template" or Skins as they are called. Tourweaver allows you to build skins of your own choice and design. Though it does come with a collection of pre-designed skins to get you going. You make choose to use them or simply discard them completely. More FREE skins are available via the Easypano website for registered users if you are not capable of building your own or wish to use some element of one or another for your own custom/bespoke skin build.
Just like Pano2VR or Flashpanoramas you can build whatever you like. It just happens that there are free skins supplied with the program as a starting point.
Other graphic designers offer "copyrighted" versions or build you a custom skin to your design at a fee.
More upgrades are on the way for Tourweaver and this will be a FREE upgrade to all registered users.
Regards, Smooth
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Smooth
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Re: vrbrochure versus tourweaver vrs whatever!
Posted: 4 Apr 2008 at 14:53 GMT
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Based on some quick conversion on todays date you would pay the amount in the second column if you used your Visa or Mastercard based solely on paying in USD. (Plus bank processing fee)
In the left column is the price being charged at the checkout via Element5 ecommerce. (But don't forget the tax if applicable)
Based on Tourweaver Pro via www.smooth360.info on 05/04/08
USD 699.95 -
AUD 1060.00 - 759.70
GBP 480.00 - 351.00
Yen 91,000 - 71,160
Can 940.00 - 703.45
Eur 629.95 - 444.60
that "can" add up to some saving.
Regards, Smooth
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Doug Aurand
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Re: vrbrochure versus tourweaver vrs whatever!
Posted: 4 Apr 2008 at 14:55 GMT
updated: 4 Apr 2008 at 14:58 GMT
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Jimtschetter
In the context of doing real estate tours like you asked about in your e-mail, Tourweaver and VRBrochure are really unnecessary.
Realtors will want their virtual tours distributed to various websites like Realtor.com and the national real estate franchise sites like ColdwellBanker.com, Century21.com, REMAX.com, etc, to get maximum exposure and value from the tour.
I use Picturepath.com which is a service of Move/Homestore.com, the company that runs Realtor.com for the National Association of Realtors. Picturepath.com was originally developed by iPIX.
They will host iPIX images, Equirectangular Projections saved as JPEGs that will be viewed with the PTViewer and the IVP file type.
The Cost for just hosting is $5 per tour for a year. Distribution to Realtor.com is another $19.95. I've never figured out if the $19.95 fee kicks in if I select ColdwellBanker.com, but not Realtor.com
Here's a link to a tour I posted with them last week
media.homestore.com/HZ8TSXNZ.htm
There are other real estate distribution service like VRGuild.com, Voyager360.com, erealtyweb.net and others
Or you can go through a simple review process with Picturepath.com and when approved, they will add a virtual tour I host myself to Realtor.com by providing them a link. But they don't distribute that link to the real estate franchises. Neither do any of the other hosting/distributing services. But the charge to get it on Realtor.com is still $20-25
I've thought about using Tourweaver to produce floorplan navigated tours (they have templates specifically for them) becasue I also produce Measured Floorplans for agents (there's no official record of how big a home is in New Mexico) and charge a premium of an additional $100 for setting up, hosting and distributing the tour.
But I wanted to buy my Sigma 8mm f/3.5 first
For real estate tours, the hosting/distributing services are just too easy to use and very competitively priced compared to the time involved in creating and hosting your own tours.
Doug Aurand
Albuquerque, NM
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