atomicmak
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ptviewer limitation
Posted: 25 Mar 2008 at 10:39 GMT
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was trying the ptviewer through detectvr script by devalvr and found that the ptviewer 2.8 is having limitation allowe viewing 5000x2500 size jpg.
if i give it 3000x1500 it allows.
can anyone tell me what exact the issue is ?
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atomicmak
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gus
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Re: ptviewer limitation
Posted: 25 Mar 2008 at 11:33 GMT
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There exists an limitation with PTviewer which has something to do with Java memory. Use a jpg size less than 4000x2000, it should work fine then….gus
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atomicmak
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Re: ptviewer limitation
Posted: 25 Mar 2008 at 11:43 GMT
updated: 25 Mar 2008 at 11:48 GMT
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then i think for full screen i have to choose something else
also if the java has limitation why then the first link i can able to open in my pc and not second as they both uses same jpg ?
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atomicmak
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Re: ptviewer limitation
Posted: 25 Mar 2008 at 12:30 GMT
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i have resolved the issue by using my own purePlayerPro for java.
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Hans Nyberg
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Re: ptviewer limitation
Posted: 25 Mar 2008 at 13:59 GMT
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Pureplayer resizes the images on the fly if they are to big.
You might have problem with JAVA in Vista and Internet Explorer.
I just tried to solve them for a friend who bought a new HP but I had to give up.
You can read about the size limits at Fulvios page
www.fsoft.it/panorama/PTViewer/LargePanos.htm
Hans
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Ken Warner
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Re: ptviewer limitation
Posted: 26 Mar 2008 at 0:32 GMT
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I just opened the 5000 X 2500 Neemrana Hotel pano in PTViewer on my 512 meg; 800 mhz Windows 2000 computer in Firefox 2.0.0.12.
What's the problem exactly?
Did you set the memory parameters like I suggested in another thread?
Man I'm really starting to hate this Java memory problem...
Start->Settings->Java Control Panel->Java tab->View Applet Runtime Parameters.
Cut and paste this in the last cell.
-Xms256m -Xmx384m
If that doesn't work -- make sure you have Java enabled.
FF->Tools->Options->Content->Java checkbox.
IE->Tools->Internet Options->Advanced->Java(SUN)
If that doesn't work -- I don't know. It works fine on my 800mhz; 512meg; Win2K machine in both FF and IE.
I suggest giving up trying to run Java (PTViewer, PurePlayer etc.) in IE7. IE7 has known problems. Use Firefox...
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Smooth
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Re: ptviewer limitation
Posted: 26 Mar 2008 at 3:53 GMT
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Ken Warner said: What's the problem exactly?
Did you set the memory parameters like I suggested in another thread?Man I'm really starting to hate this Java memory problem...
I suggest giving up trying to run Java (PTViewer, PurePlayer etc.) in IE7. IE7 has known problems. Use Firefox...
The issue Ken is that Iternet Explorer is still the number one used browser and everyday users/viewers don't muck with settings of any sort let alone Java settings.
People need things to work out of the box and that's one thing Java has never done passed something the size of a banner ad.
Regards, Smooth 
www.smooth360.com
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atomicmak
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Re: ptviewer limitation
Posted: 26 Mar 2008 at 4:59 GMT
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well i have dropped the idea to show 5k x 2.5k image in ptviewer and plan on purePlayerPro as i have that license. and after testing it worked.
www.vox360.in/mak/p2q-deval/
select java player.
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Ken Warner
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Re: ptviewer limitation
Posted: 26 Mar 2008 at 6:31 GMT
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Smooth said:
The issue Ken is that Internet Explorer is still the number one used browser and everyday users/viewers don't muck with settings of any sort let alone Java settings.
People need things to work out of the box and that's one thing Java has never done passed something the size of a banner ad.
Regards, Smooth
www.smooth360.com
Yeah -- ok -- you win that one...
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Smooth
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Re: ptviewer limitation
Posted: 26 Mar 2008 at 6:59 GMT
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Ken Warner said: Smooth said:
The issue Ken is that Internet Explorer is still the number one used browser and everyday users/viewers don't muck with settings of any sort let alone Java settings.
People need things to work out of the box and that's one thing Java has never done passed something the size of a banner ad.
Regards, Smooth
www.smooth360.com
Yeah -- ok -- you win that one...
Not a matter of winning! Just a fact of life.
Fighting Java is a pain in the rear end.
Thanks for fixing my spelling mistake also 
Regards, Smooth
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Ken Warner
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Re: ptviewer limitation
Posted: 26 Mar 2008 at 12:03 GMT
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Smooth said: Fighting Java is a pain in the rear end.
Thanks for fixing my spelling mistake also
Indeed. Been doing that for 10 years now. But I remain a true believer in Java. Things are going to turn around. Java will rise again
Fixing mistakes is something that Java has taught me well. So see -- there is payback for the true believer.
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Hans Nyberg
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Re: ptviewer limitation
Posted: 26 Mar 2008 at 12:30 GMT
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I do not know the reasons for the memory limitations. But they are a fact also on Mac which actually as you can learn from Fulvios page is even much lower.
There must be a reason for this. I do not believe that both Apple and Sun keeps this memory limitation for no reason.
Something else is Vista. I learned the other day that Vista has large problems connecting Explorer to Java. I was helping a friend with a brand new Vista machine and Java did not work. They could not use their netbank.
Even if every settings and installations was up todate IE7 just refused to show any Java. Firefox had no prob lems but the Netbank refused to work together with Firefox.
Of course this is not the first trouble with Vista. I used several days on other issues before.
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Smooth
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Re: ptviewer limitation
Posted: 26 Mar 2008 at 13:27 GMT
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I have Java installed on Vista and had zero problems (well the usual problems with Java) but have found it no worse on Vista than on XP.
Regards, Smooth
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Ken Warner
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Re: ptviewer limitation
Posted: 26 Mar 2008 at 13:41 GMT
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Why Java had such a severe memory limitation is a mystery to me and a lot of other people. Some of the geniuses at SUN must have had a reason.
I think the memory limitation was an attempt to be a good software citizen on the computers of the '90s which had slow processors and limited memory. Remember, 5 years ago, 512meg was a substantial amount of memory. And the memory limitation just sort of persisted through lack of attention.
For a while, a few years ago, SUN was reducing staff and funds for Java development. I think they had the notion that SUN was a hardware company, not a software company.
You know how big organizations get factions competing for attention and money.
While Scott McNealy was CEO at SUN, Java was not given the resources or attention it needed to keep up with the times.
Now that he has been replaced at SUN as CEO, Java has gotten a lot more attention and some of the improvements in the works look very promising. The new plugin for example. Also, I think that SUN is also trying to establish better relations with Microsoft. Something that McNealy refused to do.
I keep hoping for the day when Microsoft decides to ship Java with it's OS's.
As for Apple. They are harder to figure out than either SUN or Microsoft. From what I hear about Quicktime, it is not getting the attention it needs. But I really don't know much about Apple or QT. Apple does it's own version of Java which always seems to lag behind SUN's version for some reason.
And Vista and IE7 are just a mess that nobody want's to deal with. They are a lot of discussions on SUN's developer forums about the problems people have with IE7 and particularly with IE7 on Vista. Why stuff like that happens is yet another mystery.
There was a survey that I saw and 70% of the respondents said that they didn't want to upgrade from XP to Vista. That's a lot of people who normally would jump all over the latest OS from MS.
But still, as a Java programmer, I see potential in Java that I don't see anywhere else. After all, there is a way to fix memory problems on most computers -- except for Vista and IE7 -- and then there is always Firefox.
But Smooth's point is valid. There are a lot of people who can not be expected to do even the most simple system configuration.
But I have faith...
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