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marusso

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Nikon P5000 help
Posted: 14 Sep 2007 at 20:01 GMT
Hello,

I'm having problems with my p5000. Can anyone tell me what's the main setting in getting the image as clear as possible. All my photos are good, but kind o blury on zoom. Any idea ?
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DorinDXN

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Re: Nikon P5000 help
Posted: 14 Sep 2007 at 20:49 GMT
updated: 14 Sep 2007 at 20:53 GMT
Hi,

I don't have P5000 but until you'll get some tips from an P5000 owner you may take a look to this link

www.imaging-resource.com/PRODS/CP5000/CP5000THMB....

mean



from the infos from exif data you can get some good settings.

Also, deppending on how experienced you are in digital photo, you'll find out or you already know that the clear photo from a camera producer point of view might not mean that at 1:1 on a CRT/LCD a 10 megapixel photo must look clear/sharp.

Eighter way a sample photo, taked from tripod with timer with VR (vibration reduction) on/off could help to investigate further and to eliminate other causes as camera shaking when you press the button.

hope this helps,
Dorin
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ebig

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Re: Nikon P5000 help
Posted: 14 Sep 2007 at 23:37 GMT
One issue with the P5000 is that the focus is always automatic, though a user can set a preferred focus zone such as "flower"=macro, "pine tree"=mid range or "mountain"=distant. But it is still automatic and the auto focus can be slow. A user must wait for the blue dot and beep signifying "in-focus".

If you are doing panoramas, settings should be all to manual.

Are your tele exposures blurred when hand-held or with camera support? Is VR turned on, etc.

Regards,
Ed
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marusso

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Re: Nikon P5000 help
Posted: 15 Sep 2007 at 0:44 GMT
updated: 15 Sep 2007 at 0:45 GMT
Thank you Dorin, good resource!

Hi Ed, it's not very blurred but kind of. Yes i use them for panoramas, and the settings are all manual (mostly) and of course Noise reduction ON. Let me give you an example of what i mean:


At first they look good, but if you look closer they are not very good sharped. I know that i can edit in photoshop, but i'm wondering if there's a way camera should make better and more clear images.

Witch are the best settings for indoor, outdoor images?
I watched on other's photos made with other cameras and i was amazed... The details, colors etc were much better.
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ebig

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Re: Nikon P5000 help
Posted: 15 Sep 2007 at 3:41 GMT
Hi Marusso,
Thanks for sending the image...Here's what I see:
Most importantly the shot is at the longest focal length, close to wide open. The available f-stop range at this length is only f:5.3-7.3, and wide open the lens is at it's worst.

The problem with cameras with small, high density sensors is that while stopping down may improve lens sharpness, sensor sharpness will degrade as the diffraction limit is exceeded. The P5000 lens sharpness may improve by f:6.5, but I wouldn't expect too much from such a small sensor.

Check:
www.cambridgeincolour.com/tutorials/digital-camer...

Also, the subject is flat so it is not possible to evaluate the accuracy of the focus.

The image is shot at ISO 282, suggesting the ISO is neither fixed nor at a low setting. There is quite a bit of noise (magenta mottling) in the background.

Take the exposure off of auto and use ISO 64-200 maximum.

Hope this helps.

Regards,

Ed
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marusso

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Re: Nikon P5000 help
Posted: 15 Sep 2007 at 18:09 GMT
updated: 15 Sep 2007 at 18:15 GMT
I'm not a pro, i;m just an amateur, so please don't mind asking this questions.

The auto-focus mode, should be full-time or single? Or how to adjust the focal length?
For indoor photos with the rooms light turned on, what would be the recommended exposure and aperture? And what's the best mode to adjust the focus?

Regards Marius
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marusso

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Re: Nikon P5000 help
Posted: 15 Sep 2007 at 20:09 GMT
I think the problem is the converter.. I took 2 photos in the same angle with and without the lens. Damn there's a big difference.

with the converter

without the converter

Any idea on how i can adjust this?
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ebig

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Re: Nikon P5000 help
Posted: 15 Sep 2007 at 20:16 GMT
I believe your questions can best be answered in your P5000 User Manual...references below:

>The auto-focus mode, should be full-time or single?
User Manual - Page 76

>Or how to adjust the focal length?
User Manual - Page 2, item 11

>For indoor photos with the rooms light turned on, what would be the recommended exposure and aperture?

Start here:
www.ehow.com/how_3877_digital-photos-indoors.html
Depending on lens and situation you may want an external flash.

>And what's the best mode to adjust the focus?
User manual - Page 27

Regards,
Ed
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marusso

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Re: Nikon P5000 help
Posted: 15 Sep 2007 at 21:49 GMT
updated: 15 Sep 2007 at 21:58 GMT
Yes you're right, i didn't took to much time reading the manual.

If you can, could you post some of your photos here? I want to make a comparison between mine and yours. To figure out how can i improve mine.

I tried lots of combination of settings and didn't found one that focuses corectly. I'll continue to do it until i'll get the best one.

Anyway i'm kind of dissapointed of this lens. I wonder is there an alternative?

Edit: In my manual it doesn't appear:
>Or how to adjust the focal length?
User Manual - Page 2, item 11

Could you explain in a few words?
Thank you!

Regards,
Marius
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DorinDXN

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Re: Nikon P5000 help
Posted: 16 Sep 2007 at 9:41 GMT
updated: 16 Sep 2007 at 9:42 GMT
Hi Marius,

In the link I've posted above there are a lot of photos and from their exif data you can guess what will be the best settings for your camera in various conditions. I only read about P5000, haven't chance to use it, but seems to be a very good compact camera, so take that as an optimistic, constructive start for a good work.

In order to obtain 360x180 coverage, people often uses wide end of their camera that mean zoom out, by zoom the camera is adjusting the focal length.

Forget about the wide lens adapter for a while an try to obtain the best picture with much depth of field with your camera on manual settings, low ISO, at max zoom out, I saw an yes next to manual focus on dpreview.com about this camera so there is a hope for manual focus too.

After you managed to obtain that, go in an open space try to obtain a good cilindrical pano maded from 12 pictures with camera mounted on tripod in portait orientation.
You must rotate the tripod's head with 30 degrees for each photo.

Care to have the tripod leveled and much details around and not much close to camera objects. The free Hugin will surely stitch for you automatically that pano.
At that stage you must have a 360 degrees cilindrical pano sharp and with good DOF. Then consider using the wide adapter with all new challenges it brings (correction of CA, chances for camera to focus on adapter! so on..)

Dorin
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ebig

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Re: Nikon P5000 help
Posted: 16 Sep 2007 at 20:17 GMT
Here's a shot with the P5000 and FC-E8:
www.ebigfoto.com/images/hawaii/m-kapukaulua-06.ht...

and here's one with the P5000 and less capable Olympus FCON-02:
www.ebigfoto.com/images/hawaii/m-kapukaulua-03.ht...

There is NO manual focus on the P5000 but the auto-focus ranges can be manually set which can sometimes speed up focus. In any case wait until you get focus confirmation, use VR and stop down at least a stop from wide open, and as possible a stop less than fully stopped down.

To adjust focal length, use the zoom control, item 11 on the illustration on the Page 2 English manual.

Regards,
Ed
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sanalvideo

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Location: Antalya, Turkey
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Re: Nikon P5000 help
Posted: 18 Sep 2007 at 21:05 GMT
Hi marusso;
You can check the virtual tours with p5000+fce8 . on the web page.

www.sanalgezinti.org/discekim/

They are not modified samples with the color balances + hue . Just check the results .
You should use Manuel mode for the all VR photos . Automatic modes are worse then this result.

Regards wink
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