Timothy Jacoby
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How would you create a panoramic photo along forty blocks of Fifth Avenue?
Posted: 10 Nov 2005 at 22:10 GMT
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I would like to shoot a panoramic photo of Fifth Avenue in Manhattan from 28th to 64th street. I want each facade on the East side of the street, and they should be as free from perspective as possible, i.e. similiar to an architects drawing of an elevation.
You would think I could simply take a photo from every five feet or so and simply stitch them in PhotoShop; however, in many cases there is simply too much distortion, especially in cases where there is seperation of foreground and background items of more than a few feet--telephone poles, mailboxes, traffic lights etc. never line up properly.
Someone suggested using a system similiar to photo finishes of horse races where a camera rides along a track. It is my understanding that as the camera moves in one direction, the film moves in the opposite direction at the same speed and amount, shooting through a vertical slit which captures just a few degrees at a time. In other words, move an inch, and the camera takes about an inch worth of photography horizontally; move another inch and another photo is taken. Obviously this would require rolling the camera along a track to trigger the shots at the proper time.
I am wondering if anyone knows where to rent such a system, or has any information or experience with this type of photography.
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
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michael przewrocki
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Re: How would you create a panoramic photo along forty blocks of Fifth Avenue?
Posted: 10 Nov 2005 at 22:31 GMT
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buy olympus om-filmcamera with 24mm shiftlens or canon eos with 24-ts(tilt-shift). or use zoerks special mamiya 35mm-shift-solution. it has more shift than any other 35mm(film)-shiftlens. yes, this will cost a lot but could solve your problems. i am wrong? michael westmoreland of leicester-uk has succesfully made linear pans with zoerk-device. their is somebody in san francisco who has started a whole-town-project.
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Andrew Hudson-Smith
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Re: How would you create a panoramic photo along forty blocks of Fifth Avenue?
Posted: 11 Nov 2005 at 10:41 GMT
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This site is worth a look at, they seem to of done the same thing for London.. interesting, not sure how it was made.
www.streetsensation.co.uk/oxford/os_n02.htm
Andy
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Andrew Hudson-Smith
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Re: How would you create a panoramic photo along forty blocks of Fifth Avenue?
Posted: 11 Nov 2005 at 10:47 GMT
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Just intigued by this now.. if you went out with a d70/10.5mm lens could ptgui stitch such images on a flat projection:
www.streetsensation.co.uk/tottcrt/tcr_e2.htm
Any thoughts would be great?
Andy
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GURL
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Andrew Hudson-Smith
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Re: How would you create a panoramic photo along forty blocks of Fifth Avenue?
Posted: 14 Nov 2005 at 10:39 GMT
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Really nice links,
I went out over the weekend and grabbed some sample shots walking up the road keeping the tripod height the same etc.
Any ideas on how to stitch them as the above links?
Cheers
Andy
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GURL
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emarts
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Re: Orthographic panoramas, on Max Lyons forum:
Posted: 14 Nov 2005 at 15:49 GMT
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I would think you could achieve good results with a large-format view camera, no? You could probably rent one instead of buying, since they are quite expensive.
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Andrew Hudson-Smith
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Re: Orthographic panoramas, on Max Lyons forum:
Posted: 14 Nov 2005 at 16:36 GMT
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To get good res you need to move the camera front on to each building though.
I looked through the other thread but there seems no real solution. Setting ptgui to a wide angle works but only in my tests in a limited way.
Anyone have any other thoughts on how to do it?
Andy
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maddison lake
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Re: How would you create a panoramic photo along forty blocks of Fifth Avenue?
Posted: 14 Nov 2005 at 20:51 GMT
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Hi, A rail system such as the peace river studios systems are specifically designed for this type of work. Mainly used in motion pictures but it will keep your lens axis on the same horizontal line. Its expensive but there may be an alternative such as renting a dolly system for your tripod.
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Timothy Jacoby
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Re: How would you create a panoramic photo along forty blocks of Fifth Avenue?
Posted: 16 Nov 2005 at 15:14 GMT
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I think the rail system is probably closer to the solution.
Here is an example of the problem I am running into:
Imagine shooting Central Park from the north edge of the park around the Harlem Mire. You have forground elements, middle ground, and background elements--perhaps the skyscrappers two miles away on 59th.
The problem is that in our experiment there really isn't any definite foreground, background or middle ground. Our shots include the grass several feet in front of us; the Mire, which is several hundred feet long, thousands of feet (in depth) of trees; and miles away, several blocks (deep) of buildings. So even moving the camera a single foot causes fairly large alignment differences of foreground and background items.
Using a rail system would probably work, especially if your photo was a very narrow slit, perhaps several pixels wide but hundreds tall. If the photography could be timed to precisely coincide with the movement along the path (shooting an "inch" of film for every inch moved) I believe this would eliminate the distortion that would be caused by compositing images using masking.
I'll assume that the rail system has software that can time the photos to the movement of the camera. The question is, has anyone every seen a large-scale panorama created this way, and does anyone know anyone who has done this?
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maddison lake
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Re: How would you create a panoramic photo along forty blocks of Fifth Avenue?
Posted: 19 Nov 2005 at 5:35 GMT
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The rail system would provide an acurate axis point on a 4d plane while moving, You should be able to stitch your photos after using defish in photoshop or any other stitching program that will take your lens in a snap. I think you should try talking to peace river and seeing what experiments they have tried first.
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michael przewrocki
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Re: How would you create a panoramic photo along forty blocks of Fifth Avenue?
Posted: 22 Dec 2005 at 8:09 GMT
updated: 22 Dec 2005 at 8:10 GMT
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i have read an exchange(in a panorama-list) between andrew davidhazy(RIT) and the late panorama-cam-guru simon nathan talking about such a linear-panorama-event in the sixties? in NYC. police had to block the roads. i think nathan was the photographer. pls ask davidhazy.
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G U R L
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michael przewrocki
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Re: Some existing linear panos
Posted: 23 Dec 2005 at 3:51 GMT
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french version uses flash. despite reloading newly visible part every time when you pan: it looks great and is quite simple and flexible. remember: shockwave can be installed(in IExplorer only) also as restricted user(restricted account). if having winxp(not win2k) one can at least also install FF by temporary switching(rightclick setup/exe-file)to main-user-account. the same(ie and ff) is true for devalvr.
qtvr can also installed by this method but you have to switch to account with administrators right.
so download the plugin, then rightclick abd switch to the right account.
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