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Matthew Durr

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Comparing the NN4 and NN5
Posted: 21 May 2013 at 3:43 GMT
Hello all. Wanting to get into panoramic photography a little more seriously. I'm looking at a Manfrotto 055CX3 for all-purpose legs, and an RD-16 for a solid rotator flexible for multiple focal lengths.

What I'm not particularly sure on is whether to choose a Nodal Ninja 4 or 5. I plan on getting factory irregulars on either to save some money (covered by same warranty and are assured to be 100% functional with just small cosmetic defects).

I DO know that the NN4 is the newer model, while the NN5 is discontinued. What I'm not sure of is what advantages the NN5 may have compared to the NN4 (or vice-versa, since the NN5 is discontinued). I'm looking for a pano head that will provide a lot of flexibility from wide-angle all the way out to telephotos to 180mm and can support a good deal of weight.

Thank you. smile
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burake

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Re: Comparing the NN4 and NN5
Posted: 21 May 2013 at 6:30 GMT
Hi Matthew,
I own the NN5 but not the NN4. I guess it will be difficult to find someone who has both - or has owned both as the two are quite new models. I would contact the nodal ninja customer support. The are very knowledgeable and reply very fast.
Regards
Burak
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hindenhaag

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Re: Comparing the NN4 and NN5
Posted: 21 May 2013 at 13:24 GMT
updated: 21 May 2013 at 13:53 GMT
Hi Matthew,

NN5 is different in length of rails and in the rotator. It is the overall panohead up to D3 with 70 - 200mm in former times. Now it is replaced by M1 models. The rotator has no detend settings like NN4 with 15° preset. NN5 can be set to 2.5° manually. The NN5 has an extra "level" to lock the rotator every 15°, which gives you the advantage to get extra hold on the rotator.

Vertical height is 10mm longer with NN5, which gives more room for the Zenith Shot.

NN5 NN4
Vertical Rail 170cm 160cm

Rotator 2,5° 15°

free choice Pre Set

I own both of the models. If you like to get a bigger choice of lenses and cameras and you do not want to spend a lot more money and do not want to carry more weight, I would go for NN5 - in case you can get one. NN5 was a great in it's own.

Feel free to ask.

Kind regards,
Heinz
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Matthew Durr

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Re: Comparing the NN4 and NN5
Posted: 21 May 2013 at 14:28 GMT
burake, their customer service is pretty great. Have asked them a couple miscellaneous questions before to get quick and human(!) responses.
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Matthew Durr

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Re: Comparing the NN4 and NN5
Posted: 21 May 2013 at 14:33 GMT
updated: 21 May 2013 at 14:40 GMT
Hey Heinz, great to see someone who owns both. The bigger choice of lenses and cameras is exactly what I'm looking for, for a system that I can use for many years and camera bodies.

Last question for now, are both the NN4 and NN5 pretty much comparable in their ability to bear weight?
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hindenhaag

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Re: Comparing the NN4 and NN5
Posted: 21 May 2013 at 17:06 GMT
updated: 21 May 2013 at 17:12 GMT
Hi Matthew,

It's different: 3.5 kg for NN4,

shop.nodalninja.com/nn4-w-rd16-ii-advanced-rotato...

and 7.5Kg up to 10Kg for NN5:

www.nodalninja.com/Manuals/NN5_USER_MANUAL.pdf

So long ,
Heinz
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DennisS

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Re: Comparing the NN4 and NN5
Posted: 21 May 2013 at 21:41 GMT
-OR-

If you never want to worry about camera/lens combo in the future, spring for the M1. Pricy, but once you work with it you will see that it is worth every penny.
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Matthew Durr

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Re: Comparing the NN4 and NN5
Posted: 21 May 2013 at 22:13 GMT
Dennis,
M1 is pretty far outside my budget. What are the real advantages of having it besides the capability to use up to 400mm lenses on it in portrait? The longest lens I have right now is a 300mm, and I'm not sure I even will go that long for panos in a long time. I can't seem to find the difference between the M1, M1L, and M2 either.

For reference, currently I use a NEX-7 with my heaviest lens I actively use a 180mm f/2.8 AI-s ED. Eventually I may be going full frame with a 400mm, but how soon/far that will be, I don't know. Let alone using that huge a combo for panos.
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Matthew Durr

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Re: Comparing the NN4 and NN5
Posted: 21 May 2013 at 22:15 GMT
Heinz, great to see. Definitely going with at least a NN5. NN4 is out of the question now.
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burake

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Re: Comparing the NN4 and NN5
Posted: 27 May 2013 at 19:36 GMT
I have a NN5. I just thought to myself what am I going to do with its ability to carry 10 kg payload? If I shoot with a 300 mm or 400 mm lens then I'll go by that number of shots for a motorized head anyway.
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Matthew Durr

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Re: Comparing the NN4 and NN5
Posted: 29 May 2013 at 3:20 GMT
Burake, well it's always good to have the extra capability if only for reassurance that your setup will hold a lot more weight than you'd normally put on it. Keeps the stress on everything down.
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hindenhaag

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Re: Comparing the NN4 and NN5
Posted: 29 May 2013 at 5:17 GMT
updated: 29 May 2013 at 5:18 GMT
@Burake: I got a epic pro and I am much quicker shooting with M2 than to wait till the epic pro has found the positions. Over all its takes much more time to shoot with the motorized head.

Heinz
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burake

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Re: Comparing the NN4 and NN5
Posted: 29 May 2013 at 13:36 GMT
Heinz thank you for the tip. And how fast -or slow- is this one, do you know that?

www.kolor.com/panogear-motorized-panoramic-head.h...

Regards
Burak
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Smooth

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Re: Comparing the NN4 and NN5
Posted: 29 May 2013 at 15:13 GMT
They are also quite slow Burak.
You will need to look at the Seitz VR Drive or similar for something with enough speed to make it worthwhile.

If you simply would like automated and time is no issue then you could run with the Merlin/Panogear type of thing.

Regards, Smooth cool
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hindenhaag

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Re: Comparing the NN4 and NN5
Posted: 30 May 2013 at 4:36 GMT
The only thing I would go for now is Seitz VR Drive. But is is too expansive for me at the moment.

Heinz
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