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DennisS

Posts: 1621
Location: Los Anglels, United States
Registered: 1 Sep 2007
Re: airpano
Posted: 13 Jul 2012 at 14:55 GMT
updated: 13 Jul 2012 at 14:57 GMT
Me thinks DA is back, or at least his evil twin.

why? again, this is the sorta shit that makes me lose whatever interest ive ever had in this place
Don't let the screen door hit you on your way out.

These panoramas are simply stunning. My philosophy is that a panorama should take you somewhere you would otherwise never go. As with a static picture, a well executed panorama should trigger an emotional response. Out of the hundreds and hundreds of panoramas I have posted for others to enjoy, maybe two or three of them are "golden". I will not remove my earlier work since it shows what I was able to do with the knowledge I had at that time.

The majority of the contributors here are amateurs. There is absolutely nothing wrong with that. There are not many members here who have the luxury of waiting until the light is perfect before taking a pano. We are usually on vacation and cannot afford to waste time. We shoot what we see when we see it and try to do the best we can.

I like to think that true professionals are too busy out shooting and not cruising forums. If the content and general philosophy found here is not to your liking, there is nothing stopping anyone from forming their own group. The members decide the content. The moderators try to keep things civil. There is a way to give constructive criticism, then there is a way to piss people off when a judgment is rendered.
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TourWrist
[Panoguide]

Posts: 83
Location: United States
Registered: 1 Jun 2003
Re: airpano
Posted: 13 Jul 2012 at 16:05 GMT
Pano peeps,

Due to the use of foul language, several posts from this thread have been removed. Otherwise, everything has been left intact.

Best,
Charles (and the TourWrist team)
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Tim Eastman

Posts: 147
Location:
Registered: 13 Nov 2006
Re: airpano
Posted: 13 Jul 2012 at 16:20 GMT
None of us will ever get a chance to see the Taj Mahal from the air, and few of us will ever get the chance to see any of the other places from the perspectives presented, which magnifies my appreciation for these panos. Of course, from a technical perspective they blow me away. I would echo Dennis; panos are a unique way to see our world. My friends love being able to see the places I have been via panoramas.
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DenisSS

Posts: 1307
Location: Nigeria
Registered: 2 Sep 2010
Re: airpano
Posted: 13 Jul 2012 at 16:48 GMT
updated: 13 Jul 2012 at 16:51 GMT
Here we go again.

I take it that my post was removed because of

1. Sarcasm
2. Sarcasm
3. Sarcasm

In reality, it would have been a lot better to leave the posts as they were. This guy is offensive and, given the anger with which most people reacted, the old community was back together again; something not seen for some time.

Charles, there isn't as much activity on this forum as in the days of old. There are reasons for this, not least because it is being sanitized when something doesn't fit in with the bleached, user-friendly corporate image that TourWrist tries to convey.

That is your right, since the site is yours to do with as you want.

However, bear in mind that a forum is only as good as its contributors, and also, please, remember that had someone from California or wherever Tourwrist operates actually looked at this forum from time to time, the sort of disgraceful comments from Mr Moto, Mojo or whatever he is called, might have been staid.

If you run a forum, then run it, rather than waiting for someone to alert a moderator and then jumping in with both feet, and also patronizing other users by calling us something as banal as Pano peeps. That, in particular, is offensive and belittles the work done and contributions made by many good photographers.

It is this sort of thing that had me leaving the forum for several months. Many other regulars have also gone. Perhaps this is the message you want to get over, that is that unless we don't play the game your way, then we will be censured. Again, I would ask you, therefore, to be a referee and sort out problemmatic threads before idiots such as Mr Mo'Mouth-Than-Brains opens his gob and spews garbage and insults at people who do not deserve such treatment.

Jon
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DennisS

Posts: 1621
Location: Los Anglels, United States
Registered: 1 Sep 2007
Re: airpano
Posted: 13 Jul 2012 at 17:15 GMT
I have found the best way to deal with issues when it comes to the way this forum is run is to contact Charles directly through a private email rather than publically through this forum. His team responds much quicker and more efficiently to emails than forum posts.

Now an attempt to move this thread back on track:

Damn those are nice panoramas. Wish I had the resources to accomplish such feats of beauty.
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DenisSS

Posts: 1307
Location: Nigeria
Registered: 2 Sep 2010
Re: airpano
Posted: 13 Jul 2012 at 17:23 GMT
updated: 13 Jul 2012 at 17:24 GMT
Agreed. I am just looking into buying a Draganflyer to do something with aerial panoramas. They are expensive, but tax-deductible, and with so many peaks, fjords and other things to photograph, as well as customers lined up for aerial panos, it might be worth the money.

I am no good at computer games, so am a little worried about trying to fly something like this.

Perhaps someone as an insight into this and its use in aerial photography.

Jon
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Birder

Posts: 73
Location: Boston, United Kingdom
Registered: 1 Apr 2012
Re: airpano
Posted: 13 Jul 2012 at 17:57 GMT
updated: 13 Jul 2012 at 18:10 GMT

TourWrist said:

Pano peeps,

Due to the use of foul language, several posts from this thread have been removed. Otherwise, everything has been left intact.

Best,
Charles (and the TourWrist team)


It is your forum so do as you will, however IMHO a moderator removing complete posts is the wrong way to things as in places post no longer make sense.

Leave the post and moderate its contents by changing the parts that are offensive or are foul words

[REMOVED OFFENSIVE]

Better still have a bad word filter that changes foul words automatically.

I think you may have removed one of my posts and in no way did i use foul language and i do hope you have warned the one and only member causing problems.
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DennisS

Posts: 1621
Location: Los Anglels, United States
Registered: 1 Sep 2007
Re: airpano
Posted: 13 Jul 2012 at 19:30 GMT

Tactus 360 said:

Perhaps someone as an insight into this and its use in aerial photography.


Way back in the day of my RC Car racing days, it took such a very long time just to learn how to drive. When the car is coming straight at you, the steering command is reversed. Once steering became second nature and I did not have to think about, my driving got so much better.

Flying adds one more dimension to the controls: up and down.

Start with a very cheap helicopter and learn to fly it second nature. Once you are good at flying, try your expensive new toy.
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Bob Stone

Posts: 356
Location: Rochester, NY, United States
Registered: 20 Oct 2007
Re: airpano
Posted: 13 Jul 2012 at 20:38 GMT

DennisS said:

Tactus 360 said:

Perhaps someone as an insight into this and its use in aerial photography.

Start with a very cheap helicopter and learn to fly it second nature. Once you are good at flying, try your expensive new toy.


I once had the itch to try AP and have been a member at APLanding.com since August 2007 as well as RCGroups.com for about the same amount of time. I have learned that if you didn't grow up with RC or have very deep pockets, you should steer away from trying. But if you must give it a go, start with a sim....

www.quadrocopter.com/AeroSIM-RC--Flight-Simulator...

It will save you big money by preventing noob crashes (RC Helis and MikroKopters are very expensive) so a crash with an expensive camera will make you cry. Fly the sim using your own transmitter for a few months and study during that time before even purchasing your heli/mikro..
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Rosauro

Posts: 301
Location: Toronto, Canada
Registered: 15 Dec 2006
Re: airpano
Posted: 13 Jul 2012 at 21:06 GMT

Bob Stone said:

I have learned that if you didn't grow up with RC or have very deep pockets, you should steer away from trying


I didn't grow up with RC and don't have deep pockets but I gave it a go. I knew absolutely nothing.

I agree with starting out with a SIM first. I flew 400 hours on the SIM before flying my first heli. I wrote this page during my startup days...
rosaurophotography.com/html/ap_01.html

Most of the gear is out dated now but the basics are still the same.

During the early days I've flown with various systems and here are some write ups on them...

DJI XP3.1
rosaurophotography.com/html/rc/dji/index.html

CAPTRON Profi GPS
rosaurophotography.com/html/captron/index.html

DJI ACE ONE
rosaurophotography.com/html/rc/aceone/aceone_01.h...

It's probably best to learn with guys who are already flying and you'll learn a lot more than on your own.

Learn to fly first... adding your camera comes later...
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Bob Stone

Posts: 356
Location: Rochester, NY, United States
Registered: 20 Oct 2007
Re: airpano
Posted: 13 Jul 2012 at 21:27 GMT

Rosauro said:

Bob Stone said:

I have learned that if you didn't grow up with RC or have very deep pockets, you should steer away from trying

I didn't grow up with RC and don't have deep pockets but I gave it a go. I knew absolutely nothing.


smile Comment was aimed at the average bloke Rosauro. Respectfully, you are not the average bloke!
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TourWrist
[Panoguide]

Posts: 83
Location: United States
Registered: 1 Jun 2003
Re: airpano
Posted: 14 Jul 2012 at 18:09 GMT
Birder, yes, when possible, this is a better approach. As for your removed post, we did not edit any of your contributions.

Jon, you are so completely negative, I don't know where to begin. If you hate this forum that much, please go away. We provide a free service with no ads. We are endlessly trying to help the community, and could do our jobs better without being berated by the likes of you.

Regards,
Charles
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michael przewrocki

Posts: 995
Location: basel, Switzerland
Registered: 19 Nov 2004
Re: airpano-3D?
Posted: 14 Jul 2012 at 18:46 GMT
I dont see anything 3D. they are simple panoramas. Whats the difference?
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moto

Posts: 26
Location: Atlanta, United States
Registered: 24 Apr 2008
Re: airpano-3D?
Posted: 14 Jul 2012 at 20:43 GMT
stereoscopic pano is pointless till stereolithograpic led screens become comonplace
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michael przewrocki

Posts: 995
Location: basel, Switzerland
Registered: 19 Nov 2004
Re: airpano-3D?
Posted: 14 Jul 2012 at 20:47 GMT
I am not criticyzing non-availabilaty of 3dstereo-panorama here but mentioning 3D. Yes old critics but still alive...
What i especially love.... is 3d-soccer. Real VR, nothing natural, multiple cams shooting.
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