Judy-A
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Best Nikon DX compatible fisheye for low-light shooting?
Posted: 28 Jan 2012 at 21:18 GMT
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I’m looking for a better performer in low light than my Samyang 8mm at f/3.8. I’ve done a series of f/3.8 focus tests using the Samyang on my Nikon D7000 and always get images that are quite soft compared to f/8.
Is the Nikon 10.5mm lens sharp at f/2.8?
Advice appreciated.
Judy
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Hans Nyberg
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Judy-A
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Re: Best Nikon DX compatible fisheye for low-light shooting?
Posted: 28 Jan 2012 at 22:49 GMT
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Thank you, Hans. It’s very useful to see these examples.
Aside from softness, the other issue I have with the Samyang 8mm wide open is refraction along the margins of light-dark areas. I don’t see any of that in your panoramas.
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Jaime
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Re: Best Nikon DX compatible fisheye for low-light shooting?
Posted: 28 Jan 2012 at 23:35 GMT
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I shot recently this Pano in low light with 5D2 and 10,5 i think this was at f4, i have top the samyang, the Nikon is much better for low light.
www.360cities.net/image/trono
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DennisS
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Re: Best Nikon DX compatible fisheye for low-light shooting?
Posted: 29 Jan 2012 at 2:29 GMT
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Judy,
A sharp picture at f2.8 may not have enough depth of field. After much testing, I use f5 on my 10.5. That may not be light sensitive enough for your needs.
An alternative is to purchase a D3s for about $4000. It is supposed to be the king of Nikon low light shooting. The D4 has not started shipping yet, so we have no real life examples. Who says throwing money at a problem will not solve it?
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Hans Nyberg
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Re: Best Nikon DX compatible fisheye for low-light shooting?
Posted: 29 Jan 2012 at 8:23 GMT
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With proper focusing at 2 meters you have DOF from 1.2 m to infinity at 2.8.
Just check the large Superkidspano.
www.qtvr.dk/superkids/musikhuset/fs1a.html
The photographer to the left of me is just around 1 meters away.
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DorinDXN
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Re: Best Nikon DX compatible fisheye for low-light shooting?
Posted: 29 Jan 2012 at 10:12 GMT
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Hans, not sure you are aware but you can provide an .xml for krpano for those who cannot see the .mov.
I, for example, not having QuickTime installed in my PC.
this is the syntax for krpano's xmls files to display this .mov in krpano (you may need to add the path before the .mov)
<image type="QTVR">
<qtvr url="Superkids-musikh1-3000.mov" setview="true" />
</image>
cheers,
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Judy-A
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Re: Best Nikon DX compatible fisheye for low-light shooting?
Posted: 29 Jan 2012 at 18:51 GMT
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Jaime said: I shot recently this Pano in low light with 5D2 and 10,5 i think this was at f4, i have top the samyang, the Nikon is much better for low light.
www.360cities.net/image/trono
Jaime, thanks for the info and example. It’s good to know you have both the Samyang 8mm and Nikon 10.5mm and can personally compare them.
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Judy-A
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Re: Best Nikon DX compatible fisheye for low-light shooting?
Posted: 29 Jan 2012 at 18:52 GMT
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DennisS said: A sharp picture at f2.8 may not have enough depth of field. After much testing, I use f5 on my 10.5. That may not be light sensitive enough for your needs.
Dennis, I’ll bear in mind the depth-of-field differences. It won’t be an issue for night sky photography.
For close subject matter like vehicle interiors or mushrooms on the shaded forest floor, it could take some careful focusing. A softer background might even be welcome in those situations.
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Judy-A
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Re: Best Nikon DX compatible fisheye for low-light shooting?
Posted: 29 Jan 2012 at 18:54 GMT
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Hans Nyberg said: With proper focusing at 2 meters you have DOF from 1.2 m to infinity at 2.8.
Just check the large Superkidspano.
www.qtvr.dk/superkids/musikhuset/fs1a.html
The photographer to the left of me is just around 1 meters away.
Thanks, Hans for the additional links. I’m very impressed by your Superkids panos. I like the clarity of the small lights and lack of refraction in the aisle-number lights.
In the Photozone sample for Nikon 10.5 at f/11, with the sun in the frame behind a thin cloud, I’m surprised to see no lens flare. Is that typical for the Nikon 10.5mm?
Judy
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No One
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Re: Best Nikon DX compatible fisheye for low-light shooting?
Posted: 30 Jan 2012 at 3:39 GMT
updated: 30 Jan 2012 at 3:55 GMT
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Judy-A
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Re: Best Nikon DX compatible fisheye for low-light shooting?
Posted: 30 Jan 2012 at 4:41 GMT
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No One said: hm
Why so cryptic, No One?
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Judy-A
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Re: Best Nikon DX compatible fisheye for low-light shooting?
Posted: 30 Jan 2012 at 5:11 GMT
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No One said: hm
Ah, now I remember the thread ... I did search for it before but couldn’t remember the topic. You already gave me your advice, as did others.
www.panoguide.com/forums/qna/9743/
Well, I have a better camera and now need to make the right decision on the lens.
It’s really regrettable that my mind-like-a-steel-trap memory of former years seems to be getting a bit rusty in spots.
Judy
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