michael medina
Posts: 266
Location: portland, oregon, United States
Registered: 27 Jan 2008
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Ever been in a burnt house / structure ?
Posted: 21 May 2008 at 8:38 GMT
updated: 21 May 2008 at 8:42 GMT
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here's a link to the whole set
pdxvr.com/tours-project-48
here are links to the vr's (lower resolution versions) remove the the "-lores" at the end to see the high res versions or just use the link above.
pdxvr.com/vr-48-141-lores
pdxvr.com/vr-48-142-lores
pdxvr.com/vr-48-143-lores
pdxvr.com/vr-48-144-lores
pdxvr.com/vr-48-145-lores
pdxvr.com/vr-48-146-lores
these were really tough, both technically and physically, but i think worth it. the fumes were choking. there was a slight breeze, just enough to stir up all the toxic dust. i was only in there a few minutes on two days and each time i came home showered (at the urging of my firefighting friend) and still felt dirty for half the day afterwards.
technically, i didn't realize at the time how absolutely black and light absorbing charcoal is as well as reflective at places too. i had at some point in the recent past turned off the noise reduction in my camera so i had major issues with noise and exposure latitude. i'm not completely happy with the artificially lighted ones but as i've not seen vr's of fire and smoke damage i wanted to shoot and show them.
i've been in another structure fire before so i wasn't so shocked, but i'm still amazed at the utter destruction that just the smoke does.
ironically i had to use the photoshop burn tool more than ever on these 
i've also added 11 (or 21 depending on your last visit) other vr's to my site here:
pdxvr.com/tours-new
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Paul Thomas
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Location: East Sussex, United Kingdom
Registered: 7 Nov 2007
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Re: Ever been in a burnt house / structure ?
Posted: 21 May 2008 at 8:44 GMT
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Wow! See what you mean about the smoke damage!
Amazing pano's as always Michael
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ebig
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Location: Haiku, Maui, Hawaii, United States
Registered: 21 May 2007
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Re: Ever been in a burnt house / structure ?
Posted: 21 May 2008 at 8:56 GMT
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Obviously a difficult subject and the lighting came out well - it really shows up the scene.
Thanks for showing them
Ed
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michael medina
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Location: portland, oregon, United States
Registered: 27 Jan 2008
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Re: Ever been in a burnt house / structure ?
Posted: 21 May 2008 at 9:12 GMT
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thanks guys.
i forgot to mention that i've sent the links to my firefighter friend and he's going to look to see what he can interpret about the fire's path and origins by these.
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rudders
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Location: North Yorkshire & Northern England, United Kingdom
Registered: 21 Aug 2005
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Re: Ever been in a burnt house / structure ?
Posted: 22 May 2008 at 10:57 GMT
updated: 22 May 2008 at 11:00 GMT
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Cool.. what and how did you use flash on some of these pics Michael?
Oh and what camera / lens combo are you using?
Regards
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michael medina
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Location: portland, oregon, United States
Registered: 27 Jan 2008
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Re: Ever been in a burnt house / structure ?
Posted: 22 May 2008 at 19:04 GMT
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i used an off camera flash, mounted to the hot shoe with a diffuser on it like this www.stofen.com/Store/Products.htm. i've shot flash before and pointed it backwards in the past, but for some reason i decided to shoot this one pointed in the direction of the lens. i should have opened up the aperture and upped the iso and shot it backwards to diffuse it even further. i think i was concerned about noise at higher iso, but if i had bracketed or even just shot multiple shots, fusing the images would have reduced any noise brought on by the higher iso.
i use a d70 and nikkor 10.5 but am in the market for a d300
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gus
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Location: United Kingdom
Registered: 19 Jun 2007
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Re: Ever been in a burnt house / structure ?
Posted: 22 May 2008 at 19:54 GMT
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Hi,
Interesting and unusual panos. I noticed that you have the viewer detection on your pages, but do not have autodetect as default. Is this intentional? The panos opened with QT even though I have DevalVR, which is a superior player IMO, installed.
Lastly, not sure if its just your site, but I'm using FF, XP2, and as I'm typing this message, and press "shift", the screen jumps to the tab showing your pano with Deval and displays a litle zoom window.
I will bring this to the attention of Fiero from Deval.
Maybe someone else can try to see if the same happens.
Good work 
gus
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Henri
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Location: Tilburg, Netherlands
Registered: 30 Oct 2007
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Re: Ever been in a burnt house / structure ?
Posted: 22 May 2008 at 23:49 GMT
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Nice pictures Michael!
You have low and high resolution versions, but i don't really see a mayor differance. So is it only a pixel thing? or do you compress them differently?
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michael medina
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Location: portland, oregon, United States
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Re: Ever been in a burnt house / structure ?
Posted: 23 May 2008 at 2:49 GMT
updated: 23 May 2008 at 3:05 GMT
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@gus,
you can't put autodetect as an option as far as what order it picks plugins because autodetect is not a plugin . you can however put the plugins in order of preference. i put qt first in the list and i'm not sure why as if someone has deval installed, they would probably prefer it. i have remedied that though. (it may have just been because i'm a mac user and make it a point to not get that familiar with it  )
did it keep going back to qt and you had to keep checking deval or just the first hit ? if not, we can probably consider that issue solved .
with the other issue, i'm not sure what that is, did you have the vr in a tab or window ? if it's in a tab, it's because you have some extension to force javascript 'window.open' to open in a new tab? that could be the issue, but i'll look into that as soon as i finish this post and the dishes.
i have xp2 and ff2 so i should be able to test that, but if you have some extension installed i can't until i know what it is.
@henri
large are 2048 cubefaces compressed at photoshop export to web at 50% compression
lower res are 1352 cubefaces compressed at the same but sharpened again
the resolution difference isn't apparent until you have a screen over 1600x1200 or zoom in or both
EDIT: gus i was able to reproduce it here too, that is a strange one, i'll contact fiero on that one too. it only does it with the right shift key here too, not the left one 
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