gus
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my 1st HDR attempat
Posted: 2 Mar 2008 at 22:11 GMT
updated: 2 Mar 2008 at 22:12 GMT
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Went for a walk in out local forest on a very miserable, overcast day. I decided to see if I can create a pano that reflects the sky as I saw it on the day. 3 shots, 2ev apart.
The underexposed image had no detail in the foreground, but a dramatic sky. The overexposed and normal image had a completely blown out sky.
www.360ukproperty.co.uk/personal/shornewood/shorn...
Using HDR and tonemappng (all at default settings), the resultant image was successful in terms of reproducing an image that reflects the tonal range that I witnessed by eye. Which I think what HDR should be used for, as opposed to some "out of this world" ones I've seen before.
Uninteresting pano, but the dramatic sky was worth the effort 
Gus
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spyboy
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Re: my 1st HDR attempat
Posted: 2 Mar 2008 at 22:35 GMT
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Gus,
The sky looks great, subtle HDR is where it's at There are too many cartoon looking images out there.
What camera are you using? Did you set it to bracket mode or did you manually adjust between each exposure?
I can see some red fringing around the trees and even on the edge of the board on the ground, which could be from camera shake.
When I shot a museum installation, I used HDR, to pull some warmth from the beams in the ceiling (the room was very dark with the lights on). I did some masking in photoshop with the window, so it wasn't blown out. HDR definitely helps for windows, because you'll see some details out there. I freehand a nadir shot, but can't do that in HDR obviously because my arm shakes all over the place  So I just pasted in an end cap.
www.kmembrydesign.com/greely3/greely2.html
Kirk
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photo41
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Re: my 1st HDR attempat
Posted: 2 Mar 2008 at 23:03 GMT
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Hi Gus,
I like very much your pano and somehow I fail to see it that funny
The sky is great but I suppose the clouds weren't blue. So I propose a thread on the color change which may be not only in 2ev, but also in color temperature. I suppose by "out of this world" would be something unacceptable because it isn't real. But what is "real"?
regards, Valentin
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gus
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Re: my 1st HDR attempat
Posted: 2 Mar 2008 at 23:26 GMT
updated: 2 Mar 2008 at 23:36 GMT
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Valentin
The smile behind my sentence was not convey humour, just a smirk to say that even though the pano is uninteresting, I was chuffed with it.
The clouds arent blue, the blue you're seeing is the sky behind and shining through the clouds.
I didnt say "out of this world" images are unacceptable, I just think that some HDR work is UNintentionally surreal.
"Real" depends on you as an artist, and your target audience.
Kirk, Nice pano, the beams look great and seeing whats outside windows is always better than an blownout window!
I used a tripod, perhaps the fringing is due to the branches slightly moving between shots.
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Shantic
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Re: my 1st HDR attempat
Posted: 3 Mar 2008 at 6:33 GMT
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sorry for the hijack, but is it just me (on all of the 5 PC's that I have tried) or is the flash panos created by Pano2qtvr (or was it pano2vr on this pages?) REALLY wierd, movement is bad, and the movement has a delay on them, anyone else with this problem ?
now back to the pano, Gus, I like the HDR attempt I think this is what HDR should be, this looks real and not soo over saturated as many others I have seen.
did you use bracketing or manually set the exposure?
what camera?
Shanti
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gus
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Re: my 1st HDR attempat
Posted: 3 Mar 2008 at 7:11 GMT
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Shanti,
Is it only this pano, or others too that have "bad movement and delay"? Otherwise I can play around with some settings....
I used a nikon D70s, 10.5mm FE, NN3 with bracketing.
gus
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Danilo
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Re: my 1st HDR attempat
Posted: 3 Mar 2008 at 8:04 GMT
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I think this pano doesn't need HDR at al. The light is kind of flat now and it does'n have a lot of contrast in the pano.
So for me the pano is not so interesting because of the lightning...
I have a pano to compare with, no hdr (shot with an olympus e510 with a low dynamic range....):
www.studioamanda.nl/360/oostvoorne.html
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gus
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Re: my 1st HDR attempat
Posted: 3 Mar 2008 at 12:02 GMT
updated: 3 Mar 2008 at 12:03 GMT
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Your non-HDR shot is very nice, especially the relections. But it does appear that there was more available light in your pano, because there was simply no way I could have exposed for both the sky and the foregound.
I'm going to re-visit my original RAW's and see if I can get better contrast from a single exposure......
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Shantic
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Re: my 1st HDR attempat
Posted: 3 Mar 2008 at 18:37 GMT
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All of the panos created with pano2qtvr (on my side, don't own pano2vr) and even the ones on their oficial site, its very wierd, I think it has something to do with the new Flash player version, since thats what all of the pcs I have tried have installed, oh and only happends on IE.
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