DarrellM
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Location: United Kingdom
Registered: 13 Jan 2010
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vtfusion
Posted: 13 Jan 2010 at 16:43 GMT
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vtfusion is the product of myself Ben, a virtual tour creator and Darrell, a Flash developer.
There are a lot of good flash based applications out there for displaying 360° panoramas and creating virtual tours but we found that they didn't do exactly what we wanted. This led us on a path to develop our own and now after over two years of development and a lot of our own time and money but we have created a virtual tour player we think fills most of the needs of virtual tour creators and web designers.
fusionplayer is built in Flash and is XML driven. The XML is easy to understand and edit and there is a API so plugins can be created and used along with fusionplayer.
We hope that the virtual tour community will give this product a go and embrace it for what it is. We intend to create a number of free plugins and themes that people can download and use. We will also provide the source fla files so people can edit and adapt the themes and plugins for there own needs.
fusionplayer has been a labour of love and now we would like to turn it into a successful product that can add value to the industry and also fund us to develop the core engine further.
We are open to community feedback and would like to hear about users experiences with the software.
We look forward to working with you over the many years to come.
Thanks
Ben and Darrell
visit vtfusion website : www.vtfusion.com
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Terry Montague
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Location: Boise Idaho, United States
Registered: 31 Oct 2008
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Re: vtfusion
Posted: 13 Jan 2010 at 17:10 GMT
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Best of luck with the new player. It looks very interesting, but I am seeing poorer quality then the three main players available (FPP, Krpano, Pano2vr). Is this built for Flash 10 or 9? Also switching to High resolution on your demo took me nearly 3 min.
-Terry
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Vilmer
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Location: Argentina
Registered: 23 May 2007
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Re: vtfusion
Posted: 13 Jan 2010 at 17:14 GMT
updated: 13 Jan 2010 at 17:16 GMT
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-edit: nevermind-
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thomas bredenfeld
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Location: vienna, Austria
Registered: 21 Nov 2009
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Re: vtfusion
Posted: 13 Jan 2010 at 19:06 GMT
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interesting approach...
will there be a mac version of the tour builder? couldn't discover one.
is there only a demo of the player available? not for fusiongui?
same here as terry stated: endless waiting for hires version of the panos 
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mediavets
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Location: Isleham, Cambs., United Kingdom
Registered: 8 Feb 2008
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Re: vtfusion
Posted: 13 Jan 2010 at 19:33 GMT
updated: 13 Jan 2010 at 19:33 GMT
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DarrellM said: vtfusion is the product of myself Ben, a virtual tour creator and Darrell, a Flash developer.
There are a lot of good flash based applications out there for displaying 360° panoramas and creating virtual tours but we found that they didn't do exactly what we wanted.
Thanks
Ben and Darrell
visit vtfusion website : www.vtfusion.com
Err.. what is it that you think your system does that Flash Panorama Player+Flashificator, or krpano+Autopano Tour, or Pano2VR cannot do?
I don't find you pricing stratgey/policy at all attractive. Smacks rather of the way IPIX used to do things.
Lastly why did you decide to launch the product when the GUI is not ready, the tutorials are not ready and you don't yet have a way for poeple to purchase online?
Andrew
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Vilmer
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Re: vtfusion
Posted: 13 Jan 2010 at 21:47 GMT
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mediavets said:
I don't find you pricing stratgey/policy at all attractive. Smacks rather of the way IPIX used to do things.
Andrew
Do you have to pay a license fee per panorama there to?
grts,
Ronald
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Juergen Schrader
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Location: Germany
Registered: 14 Jul 2006
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Re: vtfusion
Posted: 13 Jan 2010 at 22:06 GMT
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Great thing, guys. I guess we all agree that building tours can't be easy enough  So let's get us hands on the gui to see what it's really worth.
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Smooth
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Location: Mount Panorama, Australia
Registered: 21 Jul 2004
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Re: vtfusion
Posted: 14 Jan 2010 at 4:02 GMT
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I'm willing to look into it further but I'm not happy about "per domain" licensing that is a very limiting and not very attractive sales policy. Once the Trial GUI is available I'll certainly give it a bash. Billing is British Pounds is not great for the world stage either.
Regards, Smooth 
www.smooth360.info
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Hans Nyberg
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Location: Denmark
Registered: 28 Aug 2005
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Re: vtfusion
Posted: 14 Jan 2010 at 10:01 GMT
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No contact info. Just an email
No information about the creators.
No company info. Where is the registration number. Your VAT number
Hello guys you say you are in UK.
Do you really believe you can sell software this way.
Amateurs.
Hans
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Smooth
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Location: Mount Panorama, Australia
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Re: vtfusion
Posted: 14 Jan 2010 at 10:11 GMT
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Hans Nyberg said: Amateurs.
Jeez, that's a bit rough Hans.
At least they have their own GUI.
I wouldn't say Amateur, I'd say another competitor!
I'll reserve judgment, give them a chance to get off the ground.
Regards, Smooth
www.smooth360.info
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DarrellM
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Location: United Kingdom
Registered: 13 Jan 2010
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Re: vtfusion
Posted: 14 Jan 2010 at 11:15 GMT
updated: 14 Jan 2010 at 11:25 GMT
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Well it's been a interesting response to our software.
The flashplayer is pretty solid and is been used successfully on a few commercial tours. The GUI is still being developed by a software development company. We hope to have a good beta release by the end of February. We will create a few screencasts over the next few weeks to demonstrate it's features.
We are still adding content to the vtfusion website but we wanted to let people see it so they can have a look and keep popping back as we add more content such as tutorials, demos, plugins and themes.
The software came about as in some situations we found there wasn't a product that could meet our needs. From reading panorama forums we think our software will meet the needs of the people who can't achieve what they want with existing software, you do not need an expert knowledge of Actionscript 3 to develop your own features.
All we ask is you give it a chance, maybe it's not for you. Certainly in some cases simple panorama tours can use the standard Flash Panoramas and alike but for highly interactive content based tours which need text, maps, images, audio, video and document downloads then we hope you would bear us in mind.
Issues with viewing the higher resolution panorama on the demo are most likely due to connection speeds, the higher resolution image was 8mb so shouldn't take too long, we have reduced this to 4mb so hopefully it will be quicker now.
fusionplayer is compiled using the Flex Gumbo SDK (4) and targets Flash Player 10 accelerated 3D transformations, the player will fall back to software rendering in Flash Player 9.
Thanks
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mediavets
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Location: Isleham, Cambs., United Kingdom
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Re: vtfusion
Posted: 14 Jan 2010 at 11:58 GMT
updated: 14 Jan 2010 at 11:59 GMT
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Smooth said: At least they have their own GUI.
So they claim.
Why in this day and age did they bother to launch the Player without the GUI being ready after, they claim. two years of development effort.
Surely it would have made more sense to have everything ready before launch.
I agree with Hans - they appear to be very amateurish.
Andrew
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Smooth
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Location: Mount Panorama, Australia
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Re: vtfusion
Posted: 14 Jan 2010 at 12:09 GMT
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mediavets said: Smooth said: At least they have their own GUI.
So they claim.
Well, I looked at the screen shots
www.vtfusion.com/fusiongui.html
OK, so we're told it's not ready. It's still further advanced then what I've seen on the GUI front directly from either FPP or KRPano.
Regards, Smooth
www.smooth360.info
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mediavets
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Re: vtfusion
Posted: 14 Jan 2010 at 12:19 GMT
updated: 14 Jan 2010 at 12:19 GMT
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DarrellM said: The software came about as in some situations we found there wasn't a product that could meet our needs.........
All we ask is you give it a chance...
Now how would we do that? - there appears to be no full function demo/trial version available. I am always very reluctant to buy software that I cannot fully try out before parting with my money.
Certainly in some cases simple panorama tours can use the standard Flash Panoramas and alike but for highly interactive content based tours which need text, maps, images, audio, video and document downloads then we hope you would bear us in mind.
Do you consider your demo showcase tour to be a good example of a well-designed interactive tour? BTW it's not 'dinning room' or 'dinnng out' the word is spelled 'dining'.
Issues with viewing the higher resolution panorama on the demo are most likely due to connection speeds, the higher resolution image was 8mb so shouldn't take too long, we have reduced this to 4mb so hopefully it will be quicker now.
I don't think the issue is to do with connection speed. It is very sloooooow. Rival players seem to load similar size and larger panos much faster.
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I note you have failed to comment upon or address negative feedback about your pricing/licensing strategy.
Andrew
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Doug Aurand
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Location: Albuquerque, NM, United States
Registered: 2 Jan 2008
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Re: vtfusion
Posted: 14 Jan 2010 at 15:47 GMT
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DarrellM
You posted that "The software came about as in some situations we found there wasn't a product that could meet our needs"
What were those needs that the other Tour Authoring Programs didn't meet?
Do you plan to have a comparison of your features to programs like Tourweaver, 3DVista, Pano Express and Flashificator?
I noticed that except for the Tourweaver 5.0 Pro (not 5.0 Standard), your Tour Authoriing program is the one of the most, if not the most, expensive.
Good luck
Doug Aurand
Albuquerque, NM
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